Being looking for the ideal small van / dedicated fishing machine but LWB 4Motion Caddies are expensive and rare as rocking horse
Vehicle needs to be big enough to ramp a barrow on and off / take 13' rods occasionally but also have relative off road performance (muddy fields basically) for my river fishing requirements . . .
Have narrowed search down to a standard (rather than L2/LWB) Peugeot Partner 1.5HDi 'Grip' which is still FWD but has enhanced traction control (multiple settings eg. mud/snow etc) and reviews confirm that with decent cross climate tyres it works pretty well under load and on adverse surfaces etc . . .(there's a vid of one driving up an indoor ski slope etc)
Anyone use one of these for either work / fishing with real-world experience in terms of reliability etc? 🙏
Vehicle needs to be big enough to ramp a barrow on and off / take 13' rods occasionally but also have relative off road performance (muddy fields basically) for my river fishing requirements . . .
Have narrowed search down to a standard (rather than L2/LWB) Peugeot Partner 1.5HDi 'Grip' which is still FWD but has enhanced traction control (multiple settings eg. mud/snow etc) and reviews confirm that with decent cross climate tyres it works pretty well under load and on adverse surfaces etc . . .(there's a vid of one driving up an indoor ski slope etc)
Anyone use one of these for either work / fishing with real-world experience in terms of reliability etc? 🙏
In reply to Post #1
Not the grip version, and not the van, but the car derivative SWB version. My 13' rods going in right up to the overhead shelf. The LWB van is only 35cm longer iirc so with a bulkhead it's going to be tight
I had a look at a anglers swb partner and the bulkhead had a drop down panel behind the passenger seat so I guess you'd drop the seat flat, open the panel, and stick your rods through, have a nosey at Partner bulkheads on ebay.
I'm assuming you know of the adblue issues and cam chain issues with earlier models 2019- 2023 iirc.
Edit, if age doesn't bother you 4 motion transporters come up on Ebay. I've been looking into Transit/Transporter size vans for the last few months but to a change in circumstances. Only VW don't seem to have to many issues and even with them I saw DPF filter removals with those too for short journey/annual mileage use.
Not the grip version, and not the van, but the car derivative SWB version. My 13' rods going in right up to the overhead shelf. The LWB van is only 35cm longer iirc so with a bulkhead it's going to be tight
I had a look at a anglers swb partner and the bulkhead had a drop down panel behind the passenger seat so I guess you'd drop the seat flat, open the panel, and stick your rods through, have a nosey at Partner bulkheads on ebay.
I'm assuming you know of the adblue issues and cam chain issues with earlier models 2019- 2023 iirc.
Edit, if age doesn't bother you 4 motion transporters come up on Ebay. I've been looking into Transit/Transporter size vans for the last few months but to a change in circumstances. Only VW don't seem to have to many issues and even with them I saw DPF filter removals with those too for short journey/annual mileage use.
Thanks Vossy - those were the model years I've been looking at! These have a bigger internal space than standard SWB Caddies so reckon the worst would be removing barrow handles before strapping down etc . . another feature (as you've highlighted) are the drop down seats in the back of the bulkhead so 13' rods should be zero issues and negate the need for a LWB variant . . . I'm doing more river fishing than carping atm so my X5 more than does the job . . .however its more the spring summer carping where its a pain (loading/unloading) so if the Peugeot 'Grip' version does both carp and river adventures adequately my Chelsea tractor will remain gangster fresh and not smell of old nets etc . . !
Have looked at Transporters in 4Motion but they're too big for my current needs - have 3x kid-adults who refuse to leave home so no room on the drive for large motors! Maybe one for the future (a conversion project) once they've stopped draining my retirement funds . . .
Have looked at Transporters in 4Motion but they're too big for my current needs - have 3x kid-adults who refuse to leave home so no room on the drive for large motors! Maybe one for the future (a conversion project) once they've stopped draining my retirement funds . . .
In reply to Post #3
Some pics for you mate, this is a 13' rod sleeve resting on top of the seats, right to the back of the rear window. You can see the front parcel shelf above the rod sleeve. It depends on the height of your rod holdall/sleeves in the back as to where it will go at the front, but there's quite a bit of space below and about 6" into the parcel shelf too. The back load area is deceptively large, big enough to take a euro pallet I'm led to believe.
my Chelsea tractor will remain gangster fresh and not smell of old nets etc . . ! 😂
Some pics for you mate, this is a 13' rod sleeve resting on top of the seats, right to the back of the rear window. You can see the front parcel shelf above the rod sleeve. It depends on the height of your rod holdall/sleeves in the back as to where it will go at the front, but there's quite a bit of space below and about 6" into the parcel shelf too. The back load area is deceptively large, big enough to take a euro pallet I'm led to believe.
my Chelsea tractor will remain gangster fresh and not smell of old nets etc . . ! 😂
Assume you haven't removed rear seats to barrow in/out?
How do you mitigate the chain issue on used vehicles (other than checking regular service intervals etc?) Did you have a recall on yours that you utilised? As for the Adblue - def sounds like a delete is required!
How do you mitigate the chain issue on used vehicles (other than checking regular service intervals etc?) Did you have a recall on yours that you utilised? As for the Adblue - def sounds like a delete is required!
In reply to Post #5
Assume you haven't removed rear seats to barrow in/out?
Correct, that's the Mrs car, my trusty old Berlingo is in the background. We have taken the Rifter with fishing gear, just lower the rear seats as they nearly go flat. but I've not had a not had a loaded barrow in it.
How do you mitigate the chain issue on used vehicles (other than checking regular service intervals etc?) Did you have a recall on yours that you utilised? As for the Adblue - def sounds like a delete is required!
Yes we had the recall, they listened to the chain, increased the oil psi to the crack and all is apparently good. There are reports of others having the same done on the Peugeot forum and it failing a week later 😱 PSA also now recommend 5:30 oil v the original 0: whatever it was.
There are specialist garages now doing the cam chain conversion, around £2.5K, I have a Peugeot dealers invoice from a French forum on my phone, nearer 4k iirc.
You can tell by the crank covers shape if it's got the new 8mm chain apparently.
Adblue 😡not saying anything, other than some say soot deposits after deletion can lead to blocked DPFs, I believe the DPF can just cleaned/regened when if/it happened. I know someone who's done over 100k with the delete so far and no probs (not Rifter). I also read on a VW forum the other day of removing the actual filter from inside the DPF. If you do have the adblue delete PSA wont' cover the chain going.
I'll be honest, the 'not knowing' worries the hell out of me, we have a French trip next year and I'm wanting rid, or the chain done before it, no way do I want a holiday ruined by that!
Assume you haven't removed rear seats to barrow in/out?
Correct, that's the Mrs car, my trusty old Berlingo is in the background. We have taken the Rifter with fishing gear, just lower the rear seats as they nearly go flat. but I've not had a not had a loaded barrow in it.
How do you mitigate the chain issue on used vehicles (other than checking regular service intervals etc?) Did you have a recall on yours that you utilised? As for the Adblue - def sounds like a delete is required!
Yes we had the recall, they listened to the chain, increased the oil psi to the crack and all is apparently good. There are reports of others having the same done on the Peugeot forum and it failing a week later 😱 PSA also now recommend 5:30 oil v the original 0: whatever it was.
There are specialist garages now doing the cam chain conversion, around £2.5K, I have a Peugeot dealers invoice from a French forum on my phone, nearer 4k iirc.
You can tell by the crank covers shape if it's got the new 8mm chain apparently.
Adblue 😡not saying anything, other than some say soot deposits after deletion can lead to blocked DPFs, I believe the DPF can just cleaned/regened when if/it happened. I know someone who's done over 100k with the delete so far and no probs (not Rifter). I also read on a VW forum the other day of removing the actual filter from inside the DPF. If you do have the adblue delete PSA wont' cover the chain going.
I'll be honest, the 'not knowing' worries the hell out of me, we have a French trip next year and I'm wanting rid, or the chain done before it, no way do I want a holiday ruined by that!
Would get the recall / 8mm chain clarity sorted before any Adblue delete . . .
My understanding of Adblue (like silly start / stop) is generally simply to get a derv vehicle to Euro 6 emission standards. . .its not an MOT fail as its not checked?
My understanding of Adblue (like silly start / stop) is generally simply to get a derv vehicle to Euro 6 emission standards. . .its not an MOT fail as its not checked?
In reply to Post #7
Correct re the adblue and mot 😎
The problem is, if you start having the adblue issue. It's supposed to count down from 1500 miles until no start.
Ours went from 1200 miles to 50 as my wife was driving 30 miles home which means she couldn't use it the next day.
The irony, Peugeot said there is no 1200 mile warning until I showed them the pic.
I'm sure it was sold to us from Evans Halshaw and they'd just deleted the fault before we picked it up as it came on as we drove it home, only 17000 miles on it. 3 injectors, 2 sensors later and they said it needs a new tank, £2000. And if that's not enough they charged us a inspection fee each time, as just because it was a adblue code it didn't mean it was a adblue fault 😡
Have a read on the Peugeot forums, all the info is there. People were told even when it was under warranty and it went there were no kits to do it expected for months. It affected whole fleets of mobility vehicles too, very poor!
Correct re the adblue and mot 😎
The problem is, if you start having the adblue issue. It's supposed to count down from 1500 miles until no start.
Ours went from 1200 miles to 50 as my wife was driving 30 miles home which means she couldn't use it the next day.
The irony, Peugeot said there is no 1200 mile warning until I showed them the pic.
I'm sure it was sold to us from Evans Halshaw and they'd just deleted the fault before we picked it up as it came on as we drove it home, only 17000 miles on it. 3 injectors, 2 sensors later and they said it needs a new tank, £2000. And if that's not enough they charged us a inspection fee each time, as just because it was a adblue code it didn't mean it was a adblue fault 😡
Have a read on the Peugeot forums, all the info is there. People were told even when it was under warranty and it went there were no kits to do it expected for months. It affected whole fleets of mobility vehicles too, very poor!
In reply to Post #8
So are you saying this model is potentially a risky purchase? Really want a small van with a bit of offroad capability and not a low-rider gangster Caddy!
So are you saying this model is potentially a risky purchase? Really want a small van with a bit of offroad capability and not a low-rider gangster Caddy!
In reply to Post #9
Yes, re the chain, adblue not so much, as with work vans and higher mileage it should've been sorted. Stellantis changed to the 8mm cam chain in Jan 23 so that might help when looking but I'd be checking myself in case of old stock, or factoring in the cost of replacement chain on a older lower mileage reg.
As it's going to be a secondary vehicle and your not reliant on it, maybe it's worth the risk, if there is one, no need to think about it then either, guess it depends what your spending and how long you get out of it.
Worth having a read up on the 4 wheel traction systems. I looked into it when considering the VW 4Motion Transporter.
Yes, re the chain, adblue not so much, as with work vans and higher mileage it should've been sorted. Stellantis changed to the 8mm cam chain in Jan 23 so that might help when looking but I'd be checking myself in case of old stock, or factoring in the cost of replacement chain on a older lower mileage reg.
As it's going to be a secondary vehicle and your not reliant on it, maybe it's worth the risk, if there is one, no need to think about it then either, guess it depends what your spending and how long you get out of it.
Worth having a read up on the 4 wheel traction systems. I looked into it when considering the VW 4Motion Transporter.
In reply to Post #11
That's exactly the kind of bad boy I'm after!
That's exactly the kind of bad boy I'm after!