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Setup my rod please (15 posts / 1,622 views)
badger_1 badger_1
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Post #1 15 Mar 2026 10:19
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Help me set this rod up please.

Rod is 12' 3.25 t/c. I want to cast a helicopter rig 80 yards with a German rig and small PVA mesh bag attached.

There is usually a strong cross wind on the lake and I want to hit the clip every time without struggling.

What size lead should I use and what diameter line?

Thanks
andy2461 andy2461
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Post #2 15 Mar 2026 10:37
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In reply to Post #1
3oz lead will get you there
0nslow 0nslow
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Post #3 15 Mar 2026 10:46
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In reply to Post #1
What line and lead you using now.

What casting technique do you use now.
badger_1 badger_1
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Post #4 15 Mar 2026 11:16
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I've got 15lb subsonik which I think is 0.31 and have tried a 3 Oz distance lead and struggled to get to the clip in the cross wind
AndyClark AndyClark
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Post #5 15 Mar 2026 11:18
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witht that diameter line you don t really want to be going more than a 3.0z lead, .35 for a 3.5oz lead is what id be looking at
badger_1 badger_1
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Post #6 15 Mar 2026 11:22
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Would 0.35 be an 18lb line? My reel is a Sonik SK47 which I believe is a 7000 size.
Would I be able to cast a 3.5oz lead that distance from the 0.35 line without the need for a shock leader?
AndyClark AndyClark
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Post #7 15 Mar 2026 11:41
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In reply to Post #6
.35 is around 15lb and would be fine with a 3.5 oz lead without a shock leader for 80yds
badger_1 badger_1
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Post #8 15 Mar 2026 12:05
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In reply to Post #7
Thanks Andy
MrNuvawun MrNuvawun
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Post #9 15 Mar 2026 13:25
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How are you casting a bag on a helicopter without the impact causing the top bead to dislodge and potentially end up with the hooklink miles from the lead, hindering indication? Are you somehow putting the lead in the bag with the hooklink? I struggle to get the top bead to stay put casting a single hookbait lol
I flirt with helicopters from time to time, but always come to the same conclusion and revert to leadclips or running leads lol.
ip100 ip100
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Post #10 15 Mar 2026 17:37
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In reply to Post #1
Pva bag and crosswinds don't mix well. You'll be up against it to keep accurate
phil090781
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Post #11 15 Mar 2026 18:04
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In reply to Post #9
I fish helicopter rigs at ditance with 15mm pop ups on long hinges and have never had a top bead move, ever.
MrNuvawun MrNuvawun
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Post #12 16 Mar 2026 14:52
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I can't get away with using anything smaller than a 20mm single hookbait on the lake I fish I'm afraid, the bream and roach just don't allow it. Maybe it's the drag on the bigger hookbaits on impact with the water that I've always struggled with? Sometimes during the warmer months, when they can be increasingly problematic, the only way to slow them down to an acceptable level is with double 24's!
phil090781
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Post #13 16 Mar 2026 15:37
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Could well be, although I'm absolutely bombing them in at times, if I'm fishing long and don't hit the clip, and even then the top bead doesn't budge. Perhaps the type of bead makes a difference too? I use the safety type bead with the tapered sleeve and the c shape bead. They seem to hold well.
MiniWelsh MiniWelsh
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Post #14 19 Mar 2026 11:13
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In reply to Post #11
Me too, but not with any form of bag being attached which would make the bead move. A friend who had just started carp fishing was making that mistake when I went out for a session and picked up on it. He was getting takes but not connecting, due to yhe hooklink being so far from the lead
MrNuvawun MrNuvawun
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Post #15 19 Mar 2026 21:55
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In reply to Post #14
Hence why I questioned how he was bagging with a helicopter
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