Anyone used these , looking at ordering some? Feedback appreciated.
These or kaizens
These or kaizens
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Kaizens all day long
Kaizens all day long
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Only people going to have used these this early is field testers, if there are any? Hardly time for anyone unassociated to the brand to form an unbiased opinion
Only people going to have used these this early is field testers, if there are any? Hardly time for anyone unassociated to the brand to form an unbiased opinion
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The moment he said something about only the most expensive rods having the same 3k weave as the black pearl I stopped listening.
He's trying to market the rods as top end for low prices. If he said similar to what korda do with their kaizen greens saying its a mid range rod but performs extremely well for a very high percentage of anglers. Korda actively put people off the platinums, the everyday angler won't see a huge difference in performance but they will see a huge difference on their wallets. I'm not saying the kaizens are good rods, never used them but they market the greens very well
No top end rod will have a 3k weave and he shouldn't be saying things like this. A lot of people may just take his word for it. I'm pretty sure if you search for rods around the same price they will use 3k weaves (if they have a weave). Once you go get over £150 if they have a weave they will be 1k.
Wouldn't surprise if theres another more expensive range of rods in the pipeline. Christ knows what he would say about them.
The moment he said something about only the most expensive rods having the same 3k weave as the black pearl I stopped listening.
He's trying to market the rods as top end for low prices. If he said similar to what korda do with their kaizen greens saying its a mid range rod but performs extremely well for a very high percentage of anglers. Korda actively put people off the platinums, the everyday angler won't see a huge difference in performance but they will see a huge difference on their wallets. I'm not saying the kaizens are good rods, never used them but they market the greens very well
No top end rod will have a 3k weave and he shouldn't be saying things like this. A lot of people may just take his word for it. I'm pretty sure if you search for rods around the same price they will use 3k weaves (if they have a weave). Once you go get over £150 if they have a weave they will be 1k.
Wouldn't surprise if theres another more expensive range of rods in the pipeline. Christ knows what he would say about them.
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I may be wrong, but I am sure some of the Harrison rods have a 3k weave! Surely they are as top end as you can get?
I may be wrong, but I am sure some of the Harrison rods have a 3k weave! Surely they are as top end as you can get?
No. But you can be sure they are the best casting, best playing and best looking rods on the market coz Ali says so......
You can get a 3k weave on a westlake carp rod from go outdoors for less money than these.
Post edit - I just googled it 3K weave is a lot cheaper than 1k
A 3K weave describes the number of filaments (3,000) in a tow and influences the fabric's strength and optical appeal, but higher-density weaves like 1K are more expensive. The term "cheaper carbons" is a broad concept, but in general, higher-grade carbon fiber is more costly due to the denser weave and increased strength it provides.
Here's why:
What 3K refers to:
"3K" indicates that the carbon fiber is made from bundles of 3,000 individual filaments that are then woven together to form a fabric.
Density and cost:
A higher-density weave, such as 1K (1,000 filaments), uses more individual fibers in a given area and therefore requires more material to produce. This makes 1K carbon fiber more expensive than 3K carbon fiber because it offers increased strength and stiffness.
Strength vs. Cost:
While 3K carbon fiber provides good strength and is often used in applications like fishing rods, it is not inherently a "cheaper" carbon. The cost is relative; a more robust, high-strength carbon fiber will always command a higher price.
Other Factors:
Besides the weave density, the quality of the carbon fibers themselves, the type of weave pattern (like twill vs. plain weave), and the finishing process all contribute to the overall cost of the carbon material.
Post edit - I just googled it 3K weave is a lot cheaper than 1k
A 3K weave describes the number of filaments (3,000) in a tow and influences the fabric's strength and optical appeal, but higher-density weaves like 1K are more expensive. The term "cheaper carbons" is a broad concept, but in general, higher-grade carbon fiber is more costly due to the denser weave and increased strength it provides.
Here's why:
What 3K refers to:
"3K" indicates that the carbon fiber is made from bundles of 3,000 individual filaments that are then woven together to form a fabric.
Density and cost:
A higher-density weave, such as 1K (1,000 filaments), uses more individual fibers in a given area and therefore requires more material to produce. This makes 1K carbon fiber more expensive than 3K carbon fiber because it offers increased strength and stiffness.
Strength vs. Cost:
While 3K carbon fiber provides good strength and is often used in applications like fishing rods, it is not inherently a "cheaper" carbon. The cost is relative; a more robust, high-strength carbon fiber will always command a higher price.
Other Factors:
Besides the weave density, the quality of the carbon fibers themselves, the type of weave pattern (like twill vs. plain weave), and the finishing process all contribute to the overall cost of the carbon material.
I take my S- range ES with 3k weave over any Harrison/ Free spirit hi 1k weave rod
And what is it these days with all those 3.5/4lb rods, i even catch catfish till 56lb with my 2.75 lb Free spirit Es 2.75lb
And what is it these days with all those 3.5/4lb rods, i even catch catfish till 56lb with my 2.75 lb Free spirit Es 2.75lb
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And what is it these days with all those 3.5/4lb rods, i even catch catfish till 56lb with my 2.75 lb Free spirit Es 2.75lb
It's for casting further. Not for landing bigger fish.
And what is it these days with all those 3.5/4lb rods, i even catch catfish till 56lb with my 2.75 lb Free spirit Es 2.75lb
It's for casting further. Not for landing bigger fish.
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why would anyone buy rods off hamidi...buy rods from proven company's and dont get suckered in to his sales pitch that your life will be alot worse without these rods and you won't catch your biggest carp without these rods...
why would anyone buy rods off hamidi...buy rods from proven company's and dont get suckered in to his sales pitch that your life will be alot worse without these rods and you won't catch your biggest carp without these rods...
For far distances i use a rubber boat in 2025, 3.75/4Lb rods are just ridiculous imo.
Tried the Helical (10ft 3.00lb) this week got my first carp on it, the are unbeatable in their price range.
Tried the Helical (10ft 3.00lb) this week got my first carp on it, the are unbeatable in their price range.
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Ridiculous for you. Some people still cast a fishing rod, even in 2025
Ridiculous for you. Some people still cast a fishing rod, even in 2025
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And how far do the cast then these days that the need a 4lb rod +140 meter (153 yard)?
In my younger days i fished at 140m with a 3 lbs1/2 rod, have today's rods become so much worse then that such distances are no longer possible without a 3.5/4lb rod?
And how far do the cast then these days that the need a 4lb rod +140 meter (153 yard)?
In my younger days i fished at 140m with a 3 lbs1/2 rod, have today's rods become so much worse then that such distances are no longer possible without a 3.5/4lb rod?
I would rather use a piece of garden cane than an OMC rod....
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I will never buy anything from OMC. Can't stick the p***k.
I will never buy anything from OMC. Can't stick the p***k.