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Stuff sack (11 posts / 1,666 views)
colin333 colin333
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Post #1 7 Jan 2025 18:24
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I have a Trakker 360 sleeping bag love it but I am struggling
with carrying it the original sack hard work the bag attached to the bedchair
Is huge can't fold it near flat
Any suggestions for a bigger sack probably non Carp
Thanks
vossy1 vossy1
MODERATORMOD
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Post #2 7 Jan 2025 19:34
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I've a Fox Ventec in the Voyager Carryall but they don't do it anymore on checking.
The nearest I can see is the Gardner Tackle Stash

LINKY POO™ https://bass-online.co.uk/store/p995/gardner-waterproof-stash-bag.html

Edit, if your not bothered about compressing it maybe a bedchair bag, could just put it on your bedchair for transport, probably hardly notice it folded that size.
55s 55s
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Post #3 7 Jan 2025 21:07
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In reply to Post #1
Proper annoying isn't it that the bags they come in mean you lose 2 stone trying to get the poxy things back in!
Any bivvy bag if you have an old one works or something like the below - doesn't compress it but but a non compressed sleeping bag weighs the same anyway

https://www.amazon.co.uk/BagBase-BG150-Packaway-Barrel-Bag/dp/B088M78FZZ/ref=asc_df_B088M78FZZ?mcid=534925ce2f0139f7bfb83145da44cda1&hvocijid=10686639102125804007-B088M78FZZ-&hvexpln=74&tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=696285193871&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10686639102125804007&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=t&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9199078&hvtargid=pla-2281435176618&psc=1&gad_source=1
colin333 colin333
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Post #4 7 Jan 2025 22:34
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Thanks guys stash bag it is
JamieNow JamieNow
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Post #5 7 Jan 2025 23:14
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aren't sleeping bags meant to be stuffed into tight sacks / bags for a reason? I was always under the impression it was the best way to store them to keep the filling in best condition for retaining warmth etc

agree that it's a PITA though.
Zack
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Post #6 7 Jan 2025 23:58
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The ideal bags are Aldi "Dry Bags", they usually sell them from Spring time onwards amongst their "Specials". They come in 3 sizes, biggest about 40 litre and smallest about 25 litre. Usually they are accociated with water sports etc

I have been using them for years and the large one will swallow up a sleeping bag and then you can roll it up and compress the bag, when you get home, unroll it. Made from a very heavy duty PVC, 100% waterproof and come in yellow, black and blue colours. And very cheap, usually about £12. I prefer the yellow, it makes it hard to leave your bag behind.

They do two types, a duffel one with handles that does not compress and one you can compress with a shoulder strap and handle

Sadly, I cannot leave a link using any of my browsers, Google does not seem to be working for me, I can get nothing in the UK for Aldi, everything is in Australia?

But just do a search for Aldi Dry Bags. I think other places sell them but they would be dearer.

I have a few of them and use them for all sorts, thermal suits, dry clothing etc. Useful bit of kit they are to have.

I see Go Outdoors do a version of them but don't know how good they are. The 60 litre one looks OK though, but a bit too big, unless you fill it with loads of other stuff as well as a sleeping bag
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #7 8 Jan 2025 00:03
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In reply to Post #5
I've always thought the opposite. My thoughts are.....
Sleeping bags should be stored out of their storage bags, some bags have hanging loops so that they can be hung up. That's the ideal way of storing them
That way the filling is allowed to fluff up so to keep its heat retention properties.
They only time they should be stuffed into compression bags is for ease of transport.
Keeping them compressed over long periods will degrade the insulation.
Singlebleep Singlebleep
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Site deviant... Post #8 8 Jan 2025 00:10
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We all have at sometime stuffed the sleeping bag into its stuff sack as supplied, especially pre bedchairs which allowed them to be left on with articulated hinges

But ( and it's a big but) they are not meant to be kept in a stuff sack, especially a compression sack that makes them smaller.

Most modern bags have some form of hollow fill stuffing which is based on or licences by DuPont industries and needs to be released from confinement as soon as possible so the fibres can expand. Its this expansion which allows the fibres to separate and trap air which lead to warmth protection. If it's left in its stuff sack the fibres compress and the trapped air is minimalised so its thermal rating drops right off.

Bags or compression sacks are really supposed to be used to carry the sleeping bag to and from its point of use. Articulated bedchairs are more kinder but the bag should still be removed between trips.

Do we do it. Do we ****! them moan about the bags being ****
JamieNow JamieNow
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Post #9 8 Jan 2025 03:13
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In reply to Post #7
I guess that makes sense - I was thinking about them losing their heat when left in the bed chair as I know mine were always cooler around the edges when I did this but of course, these were the bits that were the most compressed when it was closed.

thanks for the tip - will go & get mine out the shed
kells kells
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Post #10 8 Jan 2025 08:06
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https://youtu.be/lTZ-p9pgdvs?si=y8itcpma4lWozQ0t

This is why we struggle..

I've recently bought a Gardner compact 5 season bag. And I knew as soon I sore the bag loft up when I unrolled it I was going to struggle to get it back in its bag. My bag is now permanently attached to my sleeping bag.And that's where its staying.
Fivenil Fivenil
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Post #11 8 Jan 2025 09:37
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Trakker 3 season bag permanently attached to my bedchair. When it gets colder I just put the thermal cover on which folds down very small and easy to get back in the bag.
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