Hi Guys,
I have Aero Tech's 12000XTBs, which I love and am looking for another set of reels to go on my lighter set up. Has anyone had both the ISOs and the Ci4 XTBs and which did they prefer and why? I imagine the Shimano's will be smoother? Also I couldn't find the weights for the ISOs if anyone has them, the Ci414000 are 560gms
Thank you
I have Aero Tech's 12000XTBs, which I love and am looking for another set of reels to go on my lighter set up. Has anyone had both the ISOs and the Ci4 XTBs and which did they prefer and why? I imagine the Shimano's will be smoother? Also I couldn't find the weights for the ISOs if anyone has them, the Ci414000 are 560gms
Thank you
In reply to Post #1
fiend of mine had the iso,s and they went noisy and wobbly within 6 months and he got rid.Funny how when he first got them he claimed they pished over the shims .If you want a proper reel you know what to do if you want a blingy coffegrinder follow the sheep and buy the diawa
fiend of mine had the iso,s and they went noisy and wobbly within 6 months and he got rid.Funny how when he first got them he claimed they pished over the shims .If you want a proper reel you know what to do if you want a blingy coffegrinder follow the sheep and buy the diawa
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.If you want a proper reel you know what to do if you want a blingy coffegrinder follow the sheep and buy the diawa
The old Shimano Daiwa debate....For balance I've had 2 sets of Infinity Brs, the 1st set over 10 years old before I sold, and my present set over 10 years old. I think it's the lack of tight tolerance that makes them so bullet proof. I do like Shimano's though I use the Stradic FG or FK for lure/spinning and they are very good.
Oh, I wasn't a sheep btw, if I was I'd of bought Tournaments way back when and on getting my second set I'd of bought Baisa, actually maybe not, I like a bait runner
.If you want a proper reel you know what to do if you want a blingy coffegrinder follow the sheep and buy the diawa
The old Shimano Daiwa debate....For balance I've had 2 sets of Infinity Brs, the 1st set over 10 years old before I sold, and my present set over 10 years old. I think it's the lack of tight tolerance that makes them so bullet proof. I do like Shimano's though I use the Stradic FG or FK for lure/spinning and they are very good.
Oh, I wasn't a sheep btw, if I was I'd of bought Tournaments way back when and on getting my second set I'd of bought Baisa, actually maybe not, I like a bait runner
In reply to Post #1
For what it's worth, I have a set or four original ISOs and a set of four Ultegra Ci4 14000 XTA's. They both get used on different sets of rods. I have had no issues with the ISOs in 12+ years of using them and I think they are fantastic reels. Also no issues with the Ultegras but not used them for quite as long. I prefer the straightforward drag cap on the ISO to the bait runner style cap on the Ultegras but prefer the slower clutch adjustment on the Ultegras to the QD clutch on the ISOs. The ISOs are a very slightly smaller reel and I would say the also feel a little lighter than the Ultegras. The Ultegras are slightly smoother and the spool is a little bigger (mine take 600 yards of 12lb mono). I happily use both but if I had to choose between them I would go for the ISO's as I prefer the size and looks and find them slightly more user friendly. The Ultegras seem a little overgunned (to me) for smaller/medium sized lakes. The Ultegras are still really nice reels though and I suspect there is not a whole lot of difference between them and your Techs in terms of how they feel. Hope that helps👍
For what it's worth, I have a set or four original ISOs and a set of four Ultegra Ci4 14000 XTA's. They both get used on different sets of rods. I have had no issues with the ISOs in 12+ years of using them and I think they are fantastic reels. Also no issues with the Ultegras but not used them for quite as long. I prefer the straightforward drag cap on the ISO to the bait runner style cap on the Ultegras but prefer the slower clutch adjustment on the Ultegras to the QD clutch on the ISOs. The ISOs are a very slightly smaller reel and I would say the also feel a little lighter than the Ultegras. The Ultegras are slightly smoother and the spool is a little bigger (mine take 600 yards of 12lb mono). I happily use both but if I had to choose between them I would go for the ISO's as I prefer the size and looks and find them slightly more user friendly. The Ultegras seem a little overgunned (to me) for smaller/medium sized lakes. The Ultegras are still really nice reels though and I suspect there is not a whole lot of difference between them and your Techs in terms of how they feel. Hope that helps👍
In reply to Post #4
Thank you, helpful balanced advice. Are the ISOs you have the 5000?
Thank you, helpful balanced advice. Are the ISOs you have the 5000?
In reply to Post #5
Mine are the 5500's. The only difference to the 5000's is the spool is slightly deeper on the 5500. They are basically the same reel with just a small difference on spool depth.
Mine are the 5500's. The only difference to the 5000's is the spool is slightly deeper on the 5500. They are basically the same reel with just a small difference on spool depth.
In reply to Post #1
Why on earth would you want 14000's on a lighter set up ? Would have thought a set of technium' 1200's would be enough big pit reels and going for a lighter setup would be going for something like ultegra 5500's with a nice set of players rods.
Why on earth would you want 14000's on a lighter set up ? Would have thought a set of technium' 1200's would be enough big pit reels and going for a lighter setup would be going for something like ultegra 5500's with a nice set of players rods.
In reply to Post #7
Personally prefer a 14000/12000 size reel, lighter set up in this case being 12' 3lb-3.25. 5500 size more scope/10 foot rod size for me personally. Plus Shimano are physically smaller reels than the equivalent Daiwa, excepting the ISO which perhaps is between the 5500 and 14000 size wise, therefore a good compromise.
Personally prefer a 14000/12000 size reel, lighter set up in this case being 12' 3lb-3.25. 5500 size more scope/10 foot rod size for me personally. Plus Shimano are physically smaller reels than the equivalent Daiwa, excepting the ISO which perhaps is between the 5500 and 14000 size wise, therefore a good compromise.
In reply to Post #8
A "lighter" set up being 3lb TC+
A "lighter" set up being 3lb TC+
In reply to Post #9
Perspective I suppose, seeing Korda pushing 4lbers , 3lb could be considered light to the newer generation angler...just saying.
Perspective I suppose, seeing Korda pushing 4lbers , 3lb could be considered light to the newer generation angler...just saying.
In reply to Post #10
I've got an Uptider, will it be any good for margin fishing ?
I've got an Uptider, will it be any good for margin fishing ?
Sorry to hijack.. anyone know what the model name/number is of the Ultegra Ci4s from about 10/12 years ago that were midnight blue colour, with a non-folding silver handle?
Wish I never sold my set - they were great.
Wish I never sold my set - they were great.
In reply to Post #12
Maybe the Ci4 XTA . Their is a set of mint ones on eBay
Maybe the Ci4 XTA . Their is a set of mint ones on eBay
In reply to Post #10
Agree, although I've been carp fishing for 40 years. Anything less than 3lb (perhaps 2.75 at a push) is undergunning on the waters I fish which are typically snaggy/weedy and the bites are hard won, so the fish need to end up safely in the net. I have original 2lb Armalites but put simply fish are bigger and waters are weedier than back when I used them. I'm certainly not on my own to hold this view, even among my generation, but all personal preference anyway, each to their own. 👍😀
Agree, although I've been carp fishing for 40 years. Anything less than 3lb (perhaps 2.75 at a push) is undergunning on the waters I fish which are typically snaggy/weedy and the bites are hard won, so the fish need to end up safely in the net. I have original 2lb Armalites but put simply fish are bigger and waters are weedier than back when I used them. I'm certainly not on my own to hold this view, even among my generation, but all personal preference anyway, each to their own. 👍😀
In reply to Post #11
I suppose the simple answer is yes, if you know what your doing, but therein lies the problem.
Only one loser if not, the poor fish :-(
Apologies for going off topic op.
I suppose the simple answer is yes, if you know what your doing, but therein lies the problem.
Only one loser if not, the poor fish :-(
Apologies for going off topic op.