After a bit of advice on looking after mono mainlines once on the reels. First session after respooling, when I go to cast, I have the rod over my head in the casting position and look back to check the line hasn't wrapped itself around the tip. I also give a slight pull on the line with my left hand to check the line is moving smoothly through the guides. This all goes fine and casting is smooth as expected. The problem I have is that progressively on subsequent trips, the line feels like it is grating on the tip ring when I do the slight tug on the line bit. I regularly strip maybe 10yds of line off the reels at the start of the session to try and eliminate any existing damage that I may or may not be able to feel, just as a peace of mind thing. My guides have no damage and I always clean off any visible build up of dirt etc. this has happened to me on every set of rods I've ever used and with whichever mainline I use, to the point where I never really see any benefit in using expensive lines and may as well go back to daiwa sensor and change it more regularly. I'm currently using Synchro XT in 15lb, but like I say, I've had it with every line I've used. Is this just me this happens to, or does everyone get it and there's something obvious that I'm not doing to alleviate it? Sorry for the long winded question, but it's really starting to get on my nerves. Thanks in advance for any replies.
Sounds like you have some line twist. Wrapping around the tip when loose is a sure sign.
To remove. Happens when incorrectly loaded.
To remedy - Use a straight bank or go to a field. Place rod on the ground open bail arm and walk off with the line 100 yds or more (nothing on end of line)
Return to rod and wind the line back holding it through your fingers or a cloth under tension. This Will remove the twist.
To remove. Happens when incorrectly loaded.
To remedy - Use a straight bank or go to a field. Place rod on the ground open bail arm and walk off with the line 100 yds or more (nothing on end of line)
Return to rod and wind the line back holding it through your fingers or a cloth under tension. This Will remove the twist.
In reply to Post #1
Not done this for years but 20 to 30 years ago I used to spray my line (on the spool) with a silicon product called armour all protectorant. It was sold for cleaning and reviving plastic surfaces on cars. Used to work a treat on the old Silcast and Big Game lines and added a fair bit to the cast. Once a month seemed to do the trick.
I'm not sure if you can still get it, but I still have some which I now use on my rods.
Not done this for years but 20 to 30 years ago I used to spray my line (on the spool) with a silicon product called armour all protectorant. It was sold for cleaning and reviving plastic surfaces on cars. Used to work a treat on the old Silcast and Big Game lines and added a fair bit to the cast. Once a month seemed to do the trick.
I'm not sure if you can still get it, but I still have some which I now use on my rods.
In reply to Post #2
Not sure it's a line twist issue tbh. When my line is limp, I don't get any twisting issues ever and never have done since I started fishing 40 odd years ago. To me it seems more like a dirty line issue, maybe waterborne sediment attaching itself to the line? I just wondered if there's something other people do on a regular basis to clean their lines, that I'm not doing?
Not sure it's a line twist issue tbh. When my line is limp, I don't get any twisting issues ever and never have done since I started fishing 40 odd years ago. To me it seems more like a dirty line issue, maybe waterborne sediment attaching itself to the line? I just wondered if there's something other people do on a regular basis to clean their lines, that I'm not doing?
In reply to Post #4
I take a small plastic pot of water with washing up liquid added and a sponge in it.
When I've wrapped up my rods I wind them back under tension through the sponge.
I probably should do this every time but normally only when there's a lot of algae in the water or willow fluff about.
It's easy to do and cleans a lot of crud off the line.
I take a small plastic pot of water with washing up liquid added and a sponge in it.
When I've wrapped up my rods I wind them back under tension through the sponge.
I probably should do this every time but normally only when there's a lot of algae in the water or willow fluff about.
It's easy to do and cleans a lot of crud off the line.
In reply to Post #4
As per runneil, do what fly fisherman do, run your line out, clean wet cloth, wind back on. To be honest, there's a gap in the Carp angling market for that sort of line cleaner.
I say use water, use what you like. My neighbour, in his 80's fly fisherman, used fairy liquid solution on his lines (I'm not saying fly lines are like Carp lines) just saying he didn't buy the specialist line cleaners, old skool
As per runneil, do what fly fisherman do, run your line out, clean wet cloth, wind back on. To be honest, there's a gap in the Carp angling market for that sort of line cleaner.
I say use water, use what you like. My neighbour, in his 80's fly fisherman, used fairy liquid solution on his lines (I'm not saying fly lines are like Carp lines) just saying he didn't buy the specialist line cleaners, old skool
In reply to Post #6
There definitely is a product, a disc of foam with a slot goes in your butt eye. Cannot remember the brand, Carp Tart maybe?
There definitely is a product, a disc of foam with a slot goes in your butt eye. Cannot remember the brand, Carp Tart maybe?
In reply to Post #7
Yep, I seem to remember it . Tbh, just a take on line controllers when sending a bait boat out, jam a sponge in your butt ring...ooh err...we're entering Karlos territory
...only joking.
Yep, I seem to remember it . Tbh, just a take on line controllers when sending a bait boat out, jam a sponge in your butt ring...ooh err...we're entering Karlos territory
...only joking.
In reply to Post #1
https://gardnertackle.co.uk/product/fluoro-plus/
Not sure this will solve your issues, they sound a bit more deep routed, but in line with what others have suggested.
It is possible to get a 'bad batch' like any manufactured product... Have you tested the line strength off the main spool if you still have some.
I had coiling issues with synchro loaded years ago, just gave up and moved on.... I'd try another spool or brand rather than trying to understand or rectify as I'd have reduced confidence it wouldn't cause other issues once a fish was hooked....
Edit... Sorry, reading on a phone with failing eyesight, I read it to be a standalone issue with one line, not a repeated problem...
https://gardnertackle.co.uk/product/fluoro-plus/
Not sure this will solve your issues, they sound a bit more deep routed, but in line with what others have suggested.
It is possible to get a 'bad batch' like any manufactured product... Have you tested the line strength off the main spool if you still have some.
I had coiling issues with synchro loaded years ago, just gave up and moved on.... I'd try another spool or brand rather than trying to understand or rectify as I'd have reduced confidence it wouldn't cause other issues once a fish was hooked....
Edit... Sorry, reading on a phone with failing eyesight, I read it to be a standalone issue with one line, not a repeated problem...
In reply to Post #9
Thanks for that Alcatraz, but yeah it's an ongoing issue which to me seems like either the line is getting very dirty very quickly, or degrading very fast. It's starting to sound like it's only me that this happens to. I never have any issues or concerns when playing fish, it's more that I'm worried about winding up for a big cast when the line feels like it's grating on the tip ring etc.
Thanks for that Alcatraz, but yeah it's an ongoing issue which to me seems like either the line is getting very dirty very quickly, or degrading very fast. It's starting to sound like it's only me that this happens to. I never have any issues or concerns when playing fish, it's more that I'm worried about winding up for a big cast when the line feels like it's grating on the tip ring etc.
I use a dish damp dish sponge on winding in when packing up, hold the rod and the sponge with one arm and wind in with the other, seems to keep my lines nice and clean