Hi all,

Going to be doing some sessions, on a particularly windy and exposed lake.

It's pretty cold, and I am new to pva bag/mesh fishing.

With the cold and my fingers not being too robust, I wanted to tie bags/rigs in advance at home, and hopefully do a quick change on the bank while fishing.

I am sure I've seen a youtube film of someone doing this well - with a pva bag and rig.

The ones I can see have leadcore, and this is banned on where I will be fishing.

Any ideas, or have I just made this scenario up?!

Cheers in advance.

In reply to Post #1
Gemini tackle do pva bag stems,they are very 👍

In reply to Post #1
Take the lead out of the leadcore it's then An unleaded leader.
You can do it with Fluoro, braid, anything
Then loop to loop them on

As bradders says there are also bag stems

Thank you both, exactly what I need, and they've videos on their website for basic-heads like me.

In reply to Post #3
Out of interest, are there things to watch out for in this approach? I am suprised more people don't do this preparation - is it something to do with risk of presentation?

Cheers both.

In reply to Post #5
I make bags up before sessions and find that if not used for a couple of weeks the pellets can dry out the wafter or bottom bait
I now redo them every other session.... Only my own observations

I use the Fox system so always make them as I need them, it takes 2 minutes. Having said that, I did make up loads and loads of sticks in the past, sometimes found they took ages to break down (if at all) depending on what was in them and always ended up chucking a lot away if they'd been in my bucket for longer than a couple of sessions.

In reply to Post #5
Gives you something to do to waste time on the bank lol

I rarely use bags but from my experience of using stick mix's you have to be careful of what you put in them if your pre making them especially if its oily. I have had stick mix's in the past that the PVA does not dissolve as the oil content has interacted with the PVA and basically made it waterproof and insoluble.

It would not be the first time after leaving rigs out for hours that I have wound in to find the stick mix still on the rig so I never premake them now unless I am using them the same day or the next.

In reply to Post #9
My one and only experience of pre tying mesh bags years ago, this is exactly what happened.

In reply to Post #9
Good advice, thank you. Especially this time of year where the water is colder and the melting time is longer.

And fair point on the night before being ok - that's when I would do them this time of year.

For me it's about maximising the amount of time my rods are in the water this time of year, as the sessions I am doing are very short, around 3 to 4 hours (family and work commitments).

In reply to Post #11
If I'm doing a night I tie mine up night before usually just 2 so I can just get the rods out but if I go for a longer session I normally tie up 3/4 the night before,then I can always tie some during the session when needed

In reply to Post #2
I tried the gemini stems, im not sure the lead will come off if the main line snaps. I made sure to get the correct size for korda leads and once on that lead didn't come off when i tested. Im back to using lead free leader and a tail rubber. Has anyone else noticed this on the stem system?

In reply to Post #13
That's my gripe about the gemini stems, the lead really won't come off if you snap off, you can glue the inserts in and drill the leads to make the hole bigger, then the lead will definitely slide off of the insert but the insert will still be attached..it's a lot of bother though.

In reply to Post #3
Be aware that some leadcore leaders float up off the bottom when the lead is removed