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Sleep system vs separate confusion over prices!.?? (20 posts / 2,495 views)
Flayskool
Posts: 15
Post #1 15 Feb 2023 18:06
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Hello guys, after some help here!! Been using the same old JRC bedchair for the last 16 years and think it might finally be time for an upgrade 🤣 Confused though as to what exactly a sleep system is vs buying a bed and bag separately. I wasn't confused, until I started to look into the pricing...

Basically, looking at the 6 legged Fox flatliner.. the bed alone is £264. And a 3 season flatliner sleeping bag is £129, totalling £393. The 3 season sleepsystem however, comes in at £440! Why?! Is there more to this than I'm seeing? Does it come with other stuff at that price? Is the bed different to the standard bed? I just don't get it... because from what I can tell (from Fox's videos themselves) you can attach the bags via a zip to the underside of the beds.. and looking at the sleep systems, that's all they are (or seem to be!)... a bed with a bag already attached.

Why would I pay £47 more for a sleep system, if I can create the same system for less by buying the items separately? Surely I'm being a div and missing something, but what is it?!

Thanks all and tight lines
Rebullio Rebullio
Posts: 152
Post #2 15 Feb 2023 18:30
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In reply to Post #1
Personally I prefer a separate bag as I find the bags on most systems too tight, the only system i've had that was roomy was a rod hutchinson big kipper where the bag was the best i've ever had but the bed was awful.
Depends on personal preference really but definitely no problem in using separates.
Flayskool
Posts: 15
Post #3 15 Feb 2023 18:41
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In reply to Post #2
Thanks mate, I hear you. Not tried a sleep system before. But, was more posting because I'm confused as to the sleep systems costing a lot more to buy than buying the bed and bag separately. I'm obviously missing something, but don't know what.
RKB
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Post #4 15 Feb 2023 18:57
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In reply to Post #1
England Angling list the 3 season sleep system @ £383.99
Flayskool
Posts: 15
Post #5 15 Feb 2023 19:24
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In reply to Post #4
Oh wow yeah, they have some cheapppp stuff on that site. I guess I should rephrase my question to something like, what's the difference between a sleep system and the same bed and bag separately haha.
Blueboy62
Posts: 105
Post #6 15 Feb 2023 21:35
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In reply to Post #1
I can only echo post 2.
For years I've used fairly standard bed chairs (Nash & JRC) with a separate Trakker bag, no issues at all.
Thought I'd treat myself to a new sleep system, the new Nash all season but I didn't do my research, ridiculously heavy and as post 2 says very tight for space.
And I would add, not that warm either.
Stick with separates.
Flayskool
Posts: 15
Post #7 16 Feb 2023 08:24
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In reply to Post #6
👍🏻👍🏻 nice one mate
zinno
Posts: 1,381
Post #8 16 Feb 2023 09:05
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I"m still very happy with my Fox duralite bed with the 1/3/5 season sleeping bags, wouldn't want to go back to a separate bed and sleeping bag.

Maybe one day when a light bedchair with a high-density mattress comes on the market that is min 205 x 80 I'll buy it with a fortis snugpak bag, but the Duralite sleeping bags are so good that this won't happen soon.
Flayskool
Posts: 15
Post #9 16 Feb 2023 10:45
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In reply to Post #8
Thanks for the help guys. Ended up buying a Solar CH08 this morning. Was at such a good price I couldn't resist. Hopefully I like it! Thanks again all
AndyClark AndyClark
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Post #10 16 Feb 2023 11:42
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thing I don't like about the few systems I've seen is the fact you sleep direct on the matress, I like something under neath me like a sheet at home or the bottom of the sleeping bag on the bank....
zinno
Posts: 1,381
Post #11 16 Feb 2023 16:43
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In reply to Post #10
With the Duralite you don't have that, it are 3 normal sleepingbags but you zip them on the Duralite bed instead of securing them with strap
zinno
Posts: 1,381
Post #12 16 Feb 2023 16:45
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In reply to Post #9
Price/quality: unbeatable if you lie well on it a topper.
Flayskool
Posts: 15
Post #13 16 Feb 2023 17:00
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In reply to Post #12
Nice to hear In fact my decision was made in part due to a lot of your comments on other threads, so thanks a lot And if I don't like it, I'll blame you 🤣
audiguypaul audiguypaul
Posts: 1,534
Post #14 17 Feb 2023 16:09
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In reply to Post #1
I've always viewed sleep systems a bit like the old tv with a built in video or dvd player, one part packs up rendering the other useless.
NickGordon NickGordon
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Post #15 21 Feb 2023 14:52
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In reply to Post #1
Personal view is that while the sleeping bag or bed may be right, the other may not be.

For that reason I prefer separates. My sleeping bag is an All Season by Rod Hutchinson, and the bedchair is a Solar Undercover.
In summer I don't always sleep in the bag, just under an Ultimate cover.
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