Been looking at Lines this evening and am a bit sceptical about some of the Korda Info on this line...
They say, “but the biggest factor in achieving that is the fact that the line is clear – adding a dye to a mono line increases the weight, as well as altering the molecular structure and creating more stretch, all of which means that coloured lines won't cast as far”
Is this true or just marketing hype?
Could it be that they have a Clear version of Touchdown that they've just adjust the ratings for so it appears to be stronger in a given diameter?
Outside of all that, has anyone tried it? Any good? Avoid?
I like the Touchdown in Brown but am open to trying this if it's better.
They say, “but the biggest factor in achieving that is the fact that the line is clear – adding a dye to a mono line increases the weight, as well as altering the molecular structure and creating more stretch, all of which means that coloured lines won't cast as far”
Is this true or just marketing hype?
Could it be that they have a Clear version of Touchdown that they've just adjust the ratings for so it appears to be stronger in a given diameter?
Outside of all that, has anyone tried it? Any good? Avoid?
I like the Touchdown in Brown but am open to trying this if it's better.
I've not used it - I imagine they did plenty of testing with it, if it's mega thin (0.28mm or less) then it'll fly through the rings whatever colour it is.
It's obviously a load of hype, but I imagine it's fine to use for long range fishing. Confidence is key when aiming for big distances, so why not give it a try and see if you like it?
I personally use ESP syncro or Nash bullet in 10/12lb, with 70lb Arma-kord, treated with kryston greased-lightening. Or if I'm allowed to use braid - powerpro or whiplash mainline.
But that's just me!
It's obviously a load of hype, but I imagine it's fine to use for long range fishing. Confidence is key when aiming for big distances, so why not give it a try and see if you like it?
I personally use ESP syncro or Nash bullet in 10/12lb, with 70lb Arma-kord, treated with kryston greased-lightening. Or if I'm allowed to use braid - powerpro or whiplash mainline.
But that's just me!
Not the same line, but I was a big fan of Gardner pro which came in a light & dark blend..I swear the light blend was a much nicer line despite Gardner not mentioning any difference..it felt more supple, tied better and casted better. I thought it was all in my head but maybe not!!
Sounds like sales twaddle, but.. I definitely thought that clear and dark sensor behaved differently at the time. I thought the dark was more supple a sank better, which would fit the spiel. No idea if it's actually true though.
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Hi. I've used the longchuck tapered Korda line and it performed very well, Caught hard fighting French carp to mid 50's and never had a failure, use with confidence IMO.
Hi. I've used the longchuck tapered Korda line and it performed very well, Caught hard fighting French carp to mid 50's and never had a failure, use with confidence IMO.
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I share the same thoughts with the sensor line , definitely different behaving lines between clear and brown , thinking back I preferred the clear as it ‘seemed' to cast a little better
I share the same thoughts with the sensor line , definitely different behaving lines between clear and brown , thinking back I preferred the clear as it ‘seemed' to cast a little better
0.28 line is always going to cast well if you are allowed to use a shock leader. I doubt it makes much difference which 0.28 line you choose. Unfortunately I'm not allowed to use a leader so it's 0 37 straight through for me.
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To me clear lines don't seem as supple, be that Daiwa Sensor brown or clear, or Amnesia black vs clear. The dyes seem to soften the line.
I never got on with the clear Daiwa Sensor, it didn't knot as nicely and was not as soft or supple as brown.
The stiffness meant I was not casting as far. For a maximum effort cast with a leader I was hitting around 4 or 5 metres shorter with the clear 120m compared to 125m for the brown. (3oz lead, 30lb Black Amnesia leader, 2.75lb TC Century SP's and Shimano Aerlex 8000's)
I looked at the diameter of the Korda Longchuck line rated at 15lb, and it has a given diameter of 0.33mm, which is 0.02mm thinner than the Tournament rating of 0.35mm for 'properly' rated 15lb lines. In other words, it is thinner, so should cast further.
The big thought is do you need a leader on it if you are giving it the big one?
To me clear lines don't seem as supple, be that Daiwa Sensor brown or clear, or Amnesia black vs clear. The dyes seem to soften the line.
I never got on with the clear Daiwa Sensor, it didn't knot as nicely and was not as soft or supple as brown.
The stiffness meant I was not casting as far. For a maximum effort cast with a leader I was hitting around 4 or 5 metres shorter with the clear 120m compared to 125m for the brown. (3oz lead, 30lb Black Amnesia leader, 2.75lb TC Century SP's and Shimano Aerlex 8000's)
I looked at the diameter of the Korda Longchuck line rated at 15lb, and it has a given diameter of 0.33mm, which is 0.02mm thinner than the Tournament rating of 0.35mm for 'properly' rated 15lb lines. In other words, it is thinner, so should cast further.
The big thought is do you need a leader on it if you are giving it the big one?
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There are these new Tapered Lines out now, I believe Korda are bringing out the Longchuck stuff as a Tapered line soon too.
There are these new Tapered Lines out now, I believe Korda are bringing out the Longchuck stuff as a Tapered line soon too.
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I've not compared Gardner Pro light and dark against each other, although I use them both.
I've just been reading a Terry Edmonds article and he obviously recommends thinner lines for distance casting, the more supple the better:
Line
After sorting out the technique, line will play a massive part in how far you cast. What you are looking for is the supplest line available, with controlled stretch, and strong enough to land the fish safely.
Supple line creates smaller coils, and passes through the guides with less friction; thinner diameters also help with this, and create less air resistance in the cast, so will cast further. Sinking lines are not needed at distance; they are heavier so don't cast as well, and nearly always at range we are fishing very tight lines, so a heavy lead is not a top requirement.
However, I do feel that Korda may have used a bit of poetic licence...
Low stretch may well see a need for shock leaders in the 15lb Breaking strain
Brand new Long Chuck mainline from Korda has been specifically designed for long range fishing. This line has a high breaking strain to diameter ratio which significantly reduces drag in the air, enabling you to cast further.
The line also boasts a low amount of stretch, which means you can compress the rod quicker during the cast. The Long Chuck main line also has a low water absorption rate which helps to ensure the line is as light in the air as possible, meaning it will create less drag and will cast further. The low water absorption rate combined with the low stretch also helps when feeling the lead down at long range or in a cross wind.
If you're planning on fishing out in the deep water on your next session, respool with Korda Long Chunk and see the improvements in your casting.
I've not compared Gardner Pro light and dark against each other, although I use them both.
I've just been reading a Terry Edmonds article and he obviously recommends thinner lines for distance casting, the more supple the better:
Line
After sorting out the technique, line will play a massive part in how far you cast. What you are looking for is the supplest line available, with controlled stretch, and strong enough to land the fish safely.
Supple line creates smaller coils, and passes through the guides with less friction; thinner diameters also help with this, and create less air resistance in the cast, so will cast further. Sinking lines are not needed at distance; they are heavier so don't cast as well, and nearly always at range we are fishing very tight lines, so a heavy lead is not a top requirement.
However, I do feel that Korda may have used a bit of poetic licence...
Low stretch may well see a need for shock leaders in the 15lb Breaking strain
Brand new Long Chuck mainline from Korda has been specifically designed for long range fishing. This line has a high breaking strain to diameter ratio which significantly reduces drag in the air, enabling you to cast further.
The line also boasts a low amount of stretch, which means you can compress the rod quicker during the cast. The Long Chuck main line also has a low water absorption rate which helps to ensure the line is as light in the air as possible, meaning it will create less drag and will cast further. The low water absorption rate combined with the low stretch also helps when feeling the lead down at long range or in a cross wind.
If you're planning on fishing out in the deep water on your next session, respool with Korda Long Chunk and see the improvements in your casting.
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Its the same as clear plastic buckets are brittle compared to ones that have die int it.
I know tel20 rates the longchuck - ok, he's with Korda now, but if it was ***** it would have shown up in his tutorials by now.
Its the same as clear plastic buckets are brittle compared to ones that have die int it.
I know tel20 rates the longchuck - ok, he's with Korda now, but if it was ***** it would have shown up in his tutorials by now.
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Doesn't that go against what Korda are saying though?
My reading of it is that they're saying that due to not having a colour added it makes the line better to cast...
I.e. more supple?
Doesn't that go against what Korda are saying though?
My reading of it is that they're saying that due to not having a colour added it makes the line better to cast...
I.e. more supple?
There is a video of Tosh off here putting it 200 yards. 13ft amplify rods also
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I've used the longchuck tapered mainline in 15lb and it was a dream to use. Had it well over a year so it lasts well too. Use with confidence.
I've used the longchuck tapered mainline in 15lb and it was a dream to use. Had it well over a year so it lasts well too. Use with confidence.
Used the longchuck in the 12lb version with a leader it's a very good line behaves itself and is very strong.
The Gardner line I've used both version and the clear is so much better than the brown which is horrible springy stuff although very durable.
The Gardner line I've used both version and the clear is so much better than the brown which is horrible springy stuff although very durable.