After some thoughts please.
A few years back for my then 8 year old
And also as a compact 2 rod setup to cycle with
I started to cobble together a dwarf style setup
The rods don't match and both tips ended up broken but they do the job.
The reels are shimano 4000st little baitrunners. And I've never got on with them. The line twists and curls, I don't like the baitrunner kick drag is sticky etc. But I do like the compact size for some overgrown swims I use.
Small.lakes , short casts but I want to be able to use my beloved X-line. I use it on my Shimano 8000XTA reels
With no problems. My main setup is Free Spirit XS
With thise reels. I've had it years and never let me down
So I'm not looking for a backward step like the little baitrunners
I may upgrade to better rods but they will be 9 or 10 foot
Retractable.
So after all that I need a couple of reels that will suit that type of rod 150 per reel.max. I saw the Emcast 25A and wondered woukd they feel as good as my XTAs or be another mistake like the baitrunners.
A few years back for my then 8 year old
And also as a compact 2 rod setup to cycle with
I started to cobble together a dwarf style setup
The rods don't match and both tips ended up broken but they do the job.
The reels are shimano 4000st little baitrunners. And I've never got on with them. The line twists and curls, I don't like the baitrunner kick drag is sticky etc. But I do like the compact size for some overgrown swims I use.
Small.lakes , short casts but I want to be able to use my beloved X-line. I use it on my Shimano 8000XTA reels
With no problems. My main setup is Free Spirit XS
With thise reels. I've had it years and never let me down
So I'm not looking for a backward step like the little baitrunners
I may upgrade to better rods but they will be 9 or 10 foot
Retractable.
So after all that I need a couple of reels that will suit that type of rod 150 per reel.max. I saw the Emcast 25A and wondered woukd they feel as good as my XTAs or be another mistake like the baitrunners.
In reply to Post #1
Have a look at the okuma inception 6000 cracking reels for the money under £60 each
Have a look at the okuma inception 6000 cracking reels for the money under £60 each
In reply to Post #1
I have Castizms (so same size as the 25a's you mention) on my lighter rods, and use 20lb Xline on them 90% of the time.
Have had no problems at all with it, which if I'm honest, surprised me. i do give it a stretch every now and them and reel in through a rag at the end of each session.
The Spool isnt much narrower than my ISO's, though obviously a much shorter stroke. Possibly why the line behaves on them?
I have Castizms (so same size as the 25a's you mention) on my lighter rods, and use 20lb Xline on them 90% of the time.
Have had no problems at all with it, which if I'm honest, surprised me. i do give it a stretch every now and them and reel in through a rag at the end of each session.
The Spool isnt much narrower than my ISO's, though obviously a much shorter stroke. Possibly why the line behaves on them?
In reply to Post #2
Thanks. But I had okumas before and didn't like
Thanks. But I had okumas before and didn't like
In reply to Post #3
Sounds good. Bit over my budget and not to easy to buy
Are they discontinued?
Sounds good. Bit over my budget and not to easy to buy
Are they discontinued?
In reply to Post #5
I used xline on my little shimano 3500 originals for years without issues.
Fancied some newer reels with a slightly wider spool and got some fox eos 10000 baitrunners. Certainly not pit reels but are very good on smaller rods where casting distance is not that far, although they seem good enough when matched up to the rod. Also surprised at how smooth and well made they feel.
I used xline on my little shimano 3500 originals for years without issues.
Fancied some newer reels with a slightly wider spool and got some fox eos 10000 baitrunners. Certainly not pit reels but are very good on smaller rods where casting distance is not that far, although they seem good enough when matched up to the rod. Also surprised at how smooth and well made they feel.
In reply to Post #6
Noted. But to be honest Andy. I dont care for the jolt from the baitrunner no.matter how I try to match it to the front drag
And then the front drag is a lot of twisting. I like.the quick drag o my shimano xtas
Noted. But to be honest Andy. I dont care for the jolt from the baitrunner no.matter how I try to match it to the front drag
And then the front drag is a lot of twisting. I like.the quick drag o my shimano xtas
In reply to Post #5
Correct - discontinued now.
the Emcast 25 a you mentioned, i think has the same sized spool though.
Correct - discontinued now.
the Emcast 25 a you mentioned, i think has the same sized spool though.
In reply to Post #7
Fair enough
How about some shimano 4500 size mini pits, not sure what new ones they do currently else I will be selling mine. I guess all they would need is different washers or drag cap
Edit these are / were ultegra xsb
Fair enough
How about some shimano 4500 size mini pits, not sure what new ones they do currently else I will be selling mine. I guess all they would need is different washers or drag cap
Edit these are / were ultegra xsb
In reply to Post #5
Emcast 25a great reels, sold my castizm 25's after buying two of the emcast and bought two more. Same but prefer the slower drag, think they look just as good and feel just as good when in use.
Emcast 25a great reels, sold my castizm 25's after buying two of the emcast and bought two more. Same but prefer the slower drag, think they look just as good and feel just as good when in use.
Fished 1 season with the emcast 25A in 2020, I rate them higher than the shimano 5500 XTD that I used last year.
Bought the new Daiwa 45 Scw SD (Black spool with fold handle) use them with my Daiwa 10ft rods although they are big pits i like them very well under my 10ft, always thought it would be too big but it's just fine, drag is also super smooth
Bought the new Daiwa 45 Scw SD (Black spool with fold handle) use them with my Daiwa 10ft rods although they are big pits i like them very well under my 10ft, always thought it would be too big but it's just fine, drag is also super smooth
In reply to Post #4
I hate it when people do this after they discarded something due to personal experience, so apologies in advance lol .... however, honestly Paul .... The Okuma Inc 6000 is a superb reel for the money (and for lots more money) .... They surpass shimano mini pits in my experience (ive owned a few XTB's and XTC's Shimmies and currently own/use 6 Okuma's Inc 6000) and they are perfect size for what you need.
I hate it when people do this after they discarded something due to personal experience, so apologies in advance lol .... however, honestly Paul .... The Okuma Inc 6000 is a superb reel for the money (and for lots more money) .... They surpass shimano mini pits in my experience (ive owned a few XTB's and XTC's Shimmies and currently own/use 6 Okuma's Inc 6000) and they are perfect size for what you need.
In reply to Post #12
Noted Paul and I appreciate you knowledge. But the photo
Looked like the reel was a bit big no?
Re the quality. I admit it was years ago.and they were.more budget end. But they literally effing fell apart bit by bit. I was reeling in an bail.arms would drop off or handles and nuts.and bolts etc.
A couple of years later I paid a bit more for a smaller okuma feeder reel and that was better, but all the paint flaked off within a year.
Noted Paul and I appreciate you knowledge. But the photo
Looked like the reel was a bit big no?
Re the quality. I admit it was years ago.and they were.more budget end. But they literally effing fell apart bit by bit. I was reeling in an bail.arms would drop off or handles and nuts.and bolts etc.
A couple of years later I paid a bit more for a smaller okuma feeder reel and that was better, but all the paint flaked off within a year.
In reply to Post #13
They are a mini pit size Paul .... bigger than 4000 size Shimano's
They are a mini pit size Paul .... bigger than 4000 size Shimano's
In reply to Post #14
Thanks mate
I've remembered the ones that fell apart within months
Were undertakers.
Thanks mate
I've remembered the ones that fell apart within months
Were undertakers.