Does anyone use a boilie only approach with big baits? Is there a situation when anyone would these days?
Or are we all mostly fishing over bits n bobs?
Haven't used a boilie only approach since the early 90s myself, just wondered if some still do and catch well.
Or are we all mostly fishing over bits n bobs?
Haven't used a boilie only approach since the early 90s myself, just wondered if some still do and catch well.
In reply to Post #1
On and off, worked late 70,s for me big hand rolled
Works now, time and place, only difference now I don't freeline them, had a few bite offs back then
On and off, worked late 70,s for me big hand rolled
Works now, time and place, only difference now I don't freeline them, had a few bite offs back then
In reply to Post #1
Often worth a go if the majority of other anglers are using small feed out of a bait boat.
Often worth a go if the majority of other anglers are using small feed out of a bait boat.
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I'd give it a go in the Autumn when water temperature is not too high and fish are in a mood to feed hard.
I'd give it a go in the Autumn when water temperature is not too high and fish are in a mood to feed hard.
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I use 18mm boilie only atm fishing for hungry 20s and 30s they love it chop some up to but 85% boilie. Just bought some 20mm red halibut pellet to mix with them too will be having one of them on 1 rod for sure.
I use 18mm boilie only atm fishing for hungry 20s and 30s they love it chop some up to but 85% boilie. Just bought some 20mm red halibut pellet to mix with them too will be having one of them on 1 rod for sure.
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Of course. last few fish I've had have been on 18mm hard hookers topped with yellow barrels, fished over mixed size freebies
bear in mind to even a small carp 18mm isn't a huge bait, and I find 22mm to be a really good bait size to be "different".
the only disadvantage is you get less to the kilo
Of course. last few fish I've had have been on 18mm hard hookers topped with yellow barrels, fished over mixed size freebies
bear in mind to even a small carp 18mm isn't a huge bait, and I find 22mm to be a really good bait size to be "different".
the only disadvantage is you get less to the kilo
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I uses to fish a certain venue with 24mm. It was a good bait and resulted in a proper amount of fish. The moment I put in the same weight of 14mm I caught even more fish.
But I found out it was all about the number of baits you put out. More 24mm's also yielded to more takes but as mozzi said you've got less of them per kg bait. This also means it has its place and time. My experience is that a 24mm approach isn't as succesful as a 12mm approach when the takes are slow.
I uses to fish a certain venue with 24mm. It was a good bait and resulted in a proper amount of fish. The moment I put in the same weight of 14mm I caught even more fish.
But I found out it was all about the number of baits you put out. More 24mm's also yielded to more takes but as mozzi said you've got less of them per kg bait. This also means it has its place and time. My experience is that a 24mm approach isn't as succesful as a 12mm approach when the takes are slow.
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A kg of any bait is a kg of bait. It's a fact bigger fish will eat more bait than smaller fish. When they are having it big time. Big baits will probably, not always, deter the smaller fish.
I always use 3 sizes of bait and often 2 different baits. To keep them guessing. Different levels of baiting and different sizes at different times of year. Sometimes more is more. Sometimes less is best. Are you feeding a shoal or catching 1 large fish. Only you can tell.
A kg of any bait is a kg of bait. It's a fact bigger fish will eat more bait than smaller fish. When they are having it big time. Big baits will probably, not always, deter the smaller fish.
I always use 3 sizes of bait and often 2 different baits. To keep them guessing. Different levels of baiting and different sizes at different times of year. Sometimes more is more. Sometimes less is best. Are you feeding a shoal or catching 1 large fish. Only you can tell.
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You misunderstand. change the statement a bit.
A kilo of 24mm bait is not the same amount of baits as a kilo of 18mm baits.
I've got the exact figures somewhere but the mass of a 15mm is about 1.7cm3 and an 18mm is over 3 cm3 so nearly double the mass for a 3mm increase is diameter.
its totally dependant on how you want the fish.
the difference is mass and resultant water turbulence to bring them into the carps mouth is the biggest advantage of fishing mixed size baits in my opinion. it results in better hook holds in my experience.
You misunderstand. change the statement a bit.
A kilo of 24mm bait is not the same amount of baits as a kilo of 18mm baits.
I've got the exact figures somewhere but the mass of a 15mm is about 1.7cm3 and an 18mm is over 3 cm3 so nearly double the mass for a 3mm increase is diameter.
its totally dependant on how you want the fish.
the difference is mass and resultant water turbulence to bring them into the carps mouth is the biggest advantage of fishing mixed size baits in my opinion. it results in better hook holds in my experience.
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When I use big baits I.e 20mm or bigger I use wafters on the hook. Various sizes keeps them guessing and a wafter hookbait will catch them out. More small baits will keep more fish in the swim for longer but do you want to catch more small fish or a few bigger ones. You can catch big fish on small baits. However it's unlikely if there are loads of small fish to contend with. I'd happily use small baits in cold water if it was a low stocked water.
When I use big baits I.e 20mm or bigger I use wafters on the hook. Various sizes keeps them guessing and a wafter hookbait will catch them out. More small baits will keep more fish in the swim for longer but do you want to catch more small fish or a few bigger ones. You can catch big fish on small baits. However it's unlikely if there are loads of small fish to contend with. I'd happily use small baits in cold water if it was a low stocked water.
In reply to Post #10
I believe you can do much more selective angling by adjusting the attractivity of your bait rather than just size.
I believe you can do much more selective angling by adjusting the attractivity of your bait rather than just size.
In reply to Post #10
That is rubbish sorry. I've seen huge fish landed on tiny hookbaits and feed and cricket bait commons over 10kg of 18/26mm dumbells.
If it fits it fits.
That is rubbish sorry. I've seen huge fish landed on tiny hookbaits and feed and cricket bait commons over 10kg of 18/26mm dumbells.
If it fits it fits.
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I do think more subtle bait can trick bigger fish. But then what's more subtle a bait with loads of food liquids of an empty bait with high levels of artificial flavour?
I think there's definitely a balance and I've certainly been to venues where bait has been too attractive
I do think more subtle bait can trick bigger fish. But then what's more subtle a bait with loads of food liquids of an empty bait with high levels of artificial flavour?
I think there's definitely a balance and I've certainly been to venues where bait has been too attractive
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About 5 years ago i fished a water that had a huge amount of bream in it, due to this you could only fish 18mm+ baits and it was more of a numbers game to get through to the carp. I found that the larger the bait the less bream you had to deal with, so ended up on 22mm baits which you had to spomb in due to the gulls on a routine rotation of dive bombing your spots.
About 5 years ago i fished a water that had a huge amount of bream in it, due to this you could only fish 18mm+ baits and it was more of a numbers game to get through to the carp. I found that the larger the bait the less bream you had to deal with, so ended up on 22mm baits which you had to spomb in due to the gulls on a routine rotation of dive bombing your spots.
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I dont, but a mate of mine only uses 24mm hook baits, he swears by them, and i must admit, the hook holds seem very good. He says its due to the fish having to suck and blow harder to eject.
makes sense i guess
I dont, but a mate of mine only uses 24mm hook baits, he swears by them, and i must admit, the hook holds seem very good. He says its due to the fish having to suck and blow harder to eject.
makes sense i guess