So this weekend I was out on a club water near Sandbach Cheshire with a good friend and the water which is only about 2 acres has 10 pegs and it contains a good head of nice carp and cats. We fished two pegs quite close together opposite a treeline on the other side of the lake about 50 yards away.
I arrive with my Baitworks 18mm Royal Marine & Atlantic Heat boilies and my mate Steve rocks up with a plastic grout bucket full of Caperlan 14mm Scopex boilies from Decathlon.
Interesting I thought, I wonder how this will go.....
So we're both fishing towards the treeline opposite and over the course of the Saturday I have to say that the £3.49/kg Decathlon Scopex out fished the Baitworks bait by 3:1. The difference was very noticeable.
15 played 5 at the end of that Saturday and given that we both fished to very similar features at similar ranges the only real difference between us was the bait we were both using.
Just shows you that some of these cheaper bait firms that we don't normally give a second thought about actually produce some very appealing baits, and I have to say that this experience has really made me doubt my own confidence in some of the bigger branded baits.
I arrive with my Baitworks 18mm Royal Marine & Atlantic Heat boilies and my mate Steve rocks up with a plastic grout bucket full of Caperlan 14mm Scopex boilies from Decathlon.
Interesting I thought, I wonder how this will go.....
So we're both fishing towards the treeline opposite and over the course of the Saturday I have to say that the £3.49/kg Decathlon Scopex out fished the Baitworks bait by 3:1. The difference was very noticeable.
15 played 5 at the end of that Saturday and given that we both fished to very similar features at similar ranges the only real difference between us was the bait we were both using.
Just shows you that some of these cheaper bait firms that we don't normally give a second thought about actually produce some very appealing baits, and I have to say that this experience has really made me doubt my own confidence in some of the bigger branded baits.
In reply to Post #1
Do it over a few trips, what his bait mega smelly
Do it over a few trips, what his bait mega smelly
In reply to Post #1
Pretty sure Marco rolls Decathalon's bait. About 1 Euro per kilo delivered cost to them. Just goes to show carp will eat anything they like the look/smell/taste/whatever of.
Pretty sure Marco rolls Decathalon's bait. About 1 Euro per kilo delivered cost to them. Just goes to show carp will eat anything they like the look/smell/taste/whatever of.
Really interesting findings. I wonder if you repeated this at a different venue if you would have the same findings... I think nowadays some of the cheaper companies could be using half decent ingredients.
In reply to Post #2
Come again fella?
Come again fella?
In reply to Post #3
It wasn't just the carp, the cats were munching on it as well. He landed a 20lb & 31.5lb cats in with the carp. I must say, the experience was quite an eye opener (edit/ surreal).
It wasn't just the carp, the cats were munching on it as well. He landed a 20lb & 31.5lb cats in with the carp. I must say, the experience was quite an eye opener (edit/ surreal).
In reply to Post #1
Or some of the bigger bait firms are turning out some crap and charging a fortune for it.
Or some of the bigger bait firms are turning out some crap and charging a fortune for it.
In reply to Post #3
Good old marco. Who is marco, someone we should know?
Good old marco. Who is marco, someone we should know?
In reply to Post #1
Or was he fishing a spot the fish want to feed on as opposed to your spot where they weren't as happy to feed on? Was there someone else's leftover bait on his spot? There's about 100 variables at play.
Or was he fishing a spot the fish want to feed on as opposed to your spot where they weren't as happy to feed on? Was there someone else's leftover bait on his spot? There's about 100 variables at play.
In reply to Post #7
Never ,next your mention the B word
Never ,next your mention the B word
In reply to Post #9
The two pegs were literally 5-6 meters apart, the tree line opposite was the same with similar features and the distance between the spots we were both fishing was not that far apart.
Infact, it was very obvious to us both looking at how we were fishing that the difference was simply down to the different bait, given the circumstances we both agreed on as much.
I actually felt a bit embarrassed, I had 10kg of Baitworks AH at my house for him that I should have brought that he'd already paid me £60 for and I forgot to pack it
I half expected my mate to say keep your bait and refund me the dough.
The two pegs were literally 5-6 meters apart, the tree line opposite was the same with similar features and the distance between the spots we were both fishing was not that far apart.
Infact, it was very obvious to us both looking at how we were fishing that the difference was simply down to the different bait, given the circumstances we both agreed on as much.
I actually felt a bit embarrassed, I had 10kg of Baitworks AH at my house for him that I should have brought that he'd already paid me £60 for and I forgot to pack it
I half expected my mate to say keep your bait and refund me the dough.
In reply to Post #10
Generally speaking, I can't really fault Baitworks for quality, my first session out this year on a different lake and I landed a new PB mirror using Atlantic Heat.
I will probably experiment a bit more this year given the results from that last trip.
Generally speaking, I can't really fault Baitworks for quality, my first session out this year on a different lake and I landed a new PB mirror using Atlantic Heat.
I will probably experiment a bit more this year given the results from that last trip.
In reply to Post #1
Bit like when I tried B5. Out fished it myself with maggots, worms, spam, corn and halibut pellets side by side on the same spot while I couldn't buy a bite on B5 or black snail
This wasn't a runs water either, reckon I could've hair rigged half a turd and caught before the essential baits went.
Bit like when I tried B5. Out fished it myself with maggots, worms, spam, corn and halibut pellets side by side on the same spot while I couldn't buy a bite on B5 or black snail
This wasn't a runs water either, reckon I could've hair rigged half a turd and caught before the essential baits went.
In reply to Post #8
I think he means botterberg, carpfood and a lot of other subsidiaries. Never been a fan, but lately i too am amazed by the amount of fish you catch with absolute crap. 30 years ago i was calculating the amino's and what have you, religiously, but maybe that too is crap
I think he means botterberg, carpfood and a lot of other subsidiaries. Never been a fan, but lately i too am amazed by the amount of fish you catch with absolute crap. 30 years ago i was calculating the amino's and what have you, religiously, but maybe that too is crap
In reply to Post #11
5-6m is a lot. I had a mate fish two rods on a spot about a foot apart. Only the right hand rod was getting the bites. Same rigs, same baits. If the carp naturally feed somewhere and you put bait on it then you'll catch well. They'll eat anything if it's in the right place.
It could even be down to the direction they are patrolling. If they were coming to his bait first, he'd get the bite whilst they spook and ignore yours. Had that happen to me last year with the guy next door catching and the fish then showing 30m down the bank past where I was. Like I said, so many variables at play.
5-6m is a lot. I had a mate fish two rods on a spot about a foot apart. Only the right hand rod was getting the bites. Same rigs, same baits. If the carp naturally feed somewhere and you put bait on it then you'll catch well. They'll eat anything if it's in the right place.
It could even be down to the direction they are patrolling. If they were coming to his bait first, he'd get the bite whilst they spook and ignore yours. Had that happen to me last year with the guy next door catching and the fish then showing 30m down the bank past where I was. Like I said, so many variables at play.