Hi everyone,
I only use shelf boilies because I havent got the space to buy frozen bait.
what methods do you guys use to keep them "fresh" as long as possible like they are before opening the bag ?
I usually try to close the bags as much as I can, but the boilies dont last long in that "fresh/new" condition.
is a bag sealer/vacuum worth it ? anyone uses that ?
am open to ideias
I only use shelf boilies because I havent got the space to buy frozen bait.
what methods do you guys use to keep them "fresh" as long as possible like they are before opening the bag ?
I usually try to close the bags as much as I can, but the boilies dont last long in that "fresh/new" condition.
is a bag sealer/vacuum worth it ? anyone uses that ?
am open to ideias
In reply to Post #2
I reseal the open packet as best I can and keep them in an airtight bait bucket. Sticky Krill come in resealable bags.
I reseal the open packet as best I can and keep them in an airtight bait bucket. Sticky Krill come in resealable bags.
Add a bit of fish sauce into the bag, just enough to glaze them, shake them up every few days until they drink it in and it'll help prevent them drying out.
In reply to Post #1
YES Vacuum sealer is the simple answer
YES Vacuum sealer is the simple answer
In reply to Post #5
Have you done this with freezer baits Gerry?
Have you done this with freezer baits Gerry?
In reply to Post #6
I have turned freezer baits into shelf life with glycerin and then vacuumed them
Still have some in the shed
Atlantic heat if it helps any
I have turned freezer baits into shelf life with glycerin and then vacuumed them
Still have some in the shed
Atlantic heat if it helps any
Thinking of trying Shelf Life boilies as I've heard that they are just as good as Freezer baits these days. Apparently they are made with the same ingredients as the freezer baits with the only difference being the preservative.
Can anyone verify this for me please. Looking at trying Sticky Baits in particular.
Can anyone verify this for me please. Looking at trying Sticky Baits in particular.
In reply to Post #8
This could be interesting. Don't know the answer but I use Sticky Krill shelf lifes and catch my share.
This could be interesting. Don't know the answer but I use Sticky Krill shelf lifes and catch my share.
In reply to Post #9
When you've opened a bag, do you need to do anything in particular with what you have leftover, like coat them in krill liquid/keep them in an airtight container.
I was going to do a bulk order of freezer baits but thinking it might suit me better atm to go for shelf life's as we may be moving house this year so will help a bit with the move.
When you've opened a bag, do you need to do anything in particular with what you have leftover, like coat them in krill liquid/keep them in an airtight container.
I was going to do a bulk order of freezer baits but thinking it might suit me better atm to go for shelf life's as we may be moving house this year so will help a bit with the move.
In reply to Post #10
I don't keep them for months. I buy them as needed. They come in resealable bags which I reseal with the air squeezed out and then keep the bags in an airtight bucket. They stay fresh feeling and smelling for several months if necessary. If they do dry out I rehydrate them with whichever liquid I prefer.
I don't keep them for months. I buy them as needed. They come in resealable bags which I reseal with the air squeezed out and then keep the bags in an airtight bucket. They stay fresh feeling and smelling for several months if necessary. If they do dry out I rehydrate them with whichever liquid I prefer.
In reply to Post #10
A lot of freezer bait you buy has the preservatives mixed it, it just gets wet when defrosted and becomes normal bait.
A lot of shelf life's nowadays are extremely similar to their freezer bait counterparts, however a really well put together bait with fresh ingredients can still go “stale” despite adding preservatives which inhibit mould. It just seems to tone down and lose its effectiveness. Plus baits made with fresh eggs, good fishmeals and not dried until pebbles WILL still go off within about 6 months to a year. The only baits that last years and years are usually full of very easy to preserve ingredients such as breadcrumb, maize, semolina etc.
If you buy from a local bait maker? One of my local customers used my freezers last year when he's broke, he lives 15 mins away and it saved 20kg of boilie and 20kg tigers going to waste
Come to think of it that's a terrible business on my part lol
A lot of freezer bait you buy has the preservatives mixed it, it just gets wet when defrosted and becomes normal bait.
A lot of shelf life's nowadays are extremely similar to their freezer bait counterparts, however a really well put together bait with fresh ingredients can still go “stale” despite adding preservatives which inhibit mould. It just seems to tone down and lose its effectiveness. Plus baits made with fresh eggs, good fishmeals and not dried until pebbles WILL still go off within about 6 months to a year. The only baits that last years and years are usually full of very easy to preserve ingredients such as breadcrumb, maize, semolina etc.
If you buy from a local bait maker? One of my local customers used my freezers last year when he's broke, he lives 15 mins away and it saved 20kg of boilie and 20kg tigers going to waste
Come to think of it that's a terrible business on my part lol
In reply to Post #8
Apparently they are made with the same ingredients as the freezer baits with the only difference being the preservative.
No thats not always true at all a good example is the original CELL freezer bait that cant be made into a shelf life bait no matter how much preservative it will just go rotten very quickly and there are others OFTEN there are alterations to the ingredients from the freezer version to the shelf life its not just a case of bunging in a load of preservatives
the single best thing I have ever bought has to be a vacuum packer
Apparently they are made with the same ingredients as the freezer baits with the only difference being the preservative.
No thats not always true at all a good example is the original CELL freezer bait that cant be made into a shelf life bait no matter how much preservative it will just go rotten very quickly and there are others OFTEN there are alterations to the ingredients from the freezer version to the shelf life its not just a case of bunging in a load of preservatives
the single best thing I have ever bought has to be a vacuum packer
Oxygen
Moisture
Heat
Are your enemies. The more of them you remove the better your bait will last.
There arent many baits that cant be kept for a good while as long as they're looked after.
Re Cell even Dave Lane extends the life of his cell by air- drying and covering in Cell liquid
I appreciate that not everyone will have room or a suitable place to store baits or they simply are confident in the shelf-lifes they use, if so crack on and good luck to you. But In my opinion the only reason for shelf lifes is for shops to fill their shelves.
Moisture
Heat
Are your enemies. The more of them you remove the better your bait will last.
There arent many baits that cant be kept for a good while as long as they're looked after.
Re Cell even Dave Lane extends the life of his cell by air- drying and covering in Cell liquid
I appreciate that not everyone will have room or a suitable place to store baits or they simply are confident in the shelf-lifes they use, if so crack on and good luck to you. But In my opinion the only reason for shelf lifes is for shops to fill their shelves.
In reply to Post #13
I semi-preserved some as a favour for someone going to gigantica just before the first lock down, they never got to go and it was in good nick during an autumn garage clear out apparently.
He did ask me to pack it in pink salt which I did, which no doubt helped?
Was 2020 cell original cell though?
I semi-preserved some as a favour for someone going to gigantica just before the first lock down, they never got to go and it was in good nick during an autumn garage clear out apparently.
He did ask me to pack it in pink salt which I did, which no doubt helped?
Was 2020 cell original cell though?
In reply to Post #15
I mentioned Cell
because I was talking to the guy at Mainline about a bait they had discontinued (Maple) and we got talking about shelf lifes and he told me that Cell was one of the baits that wasnt possible to make a shelf life version without changing a lot of the ingredients
yes sure WE can air dry them salt them etc but thats a bit different isnt it
I mentioned Cell
because I was talking to the guy at Mainline about a bait they had discontinued (Maple) and we got talking about shelf lifes and he told me that Cell was one of the baits that wasnt possible to make a shelf life version without changing a lot of the ingredients
yes sure WE can air dry them salt them etc but thats a bit different isnt it