I want to try making BM1. I bought some lamlac. Would this be ok ? OR should I have bought vitamelo?
In reply to Post #1
I don't think there's much between them pal. WPC 80 is my preferred milk but is a lot more expensive.
I don't think there's much between them pal. WPC 80 is my preferred milk but is a lot more expensive.
In reply to Post #1
It's ok
It's ok
In reply to Post #3
Thanks for your replies, gives me more confidence I won't be wasting time.
Cheers.
Thanks for your replies, gives me more confidence I won't be wasting time.
Cheers.
In reply to Post #4
Lamlac is great stuff, I love using it in a bait. Granted it may not be as high a quality as refined caseins etc but it has a lovely sweet, creamy profile
Lamlac is great stuff, I love using it in a bait. Granted it may not be as high a quality as refined caseins etc but it has a lovely sweet, creamy profile
In reply to Post #2
I noticed the protein content in WP 80 is about 80 %. What would the protein content of Lamac be ? and does it really make a difference ?
I noticed the protein content in WP 80 is about 80 %. What would the protein content of Lamac be ? and does it really make a difference ?
In reply to Post #6
It's around 18-22%
Lamlacs biggest floor to me is fat content. When combined with other Ingrediants like soya The fat content can start creeping up.
Lamlac is absolutely fine to use. Whey80 has better binding properties and a better amino profile. Less fat and higher protein.
It's around 18-22%
Lamlacs biggest floor to me is fat content. When combined with other Ingrediants like soya The fat content can start creeping up.
Lamlac is absolutely fine to use. Whey80 has better binding properties and a better amino profile. Less fat and higher protein.
In reply to Post #5
Think I will be happy using the Lamlac , but I also noticed the WP 80 can harden baits up. Would Lamlac do a similar thing ? just for future reference !
Think I will be happy using the Lamlac , but I also noticed the WP 80 can harden baits up. Would Lamlac do a similar thing ? just for future reference !
In reply to Post #8
Never noticed lamlac firming baits. Can make it sticky like other milks but with Ingrediants like semo or CLO this can be overcome.
Never noticed lamlac firming baits. Can make it sticky like other milks but with Ingrediants like semo or CLO this can be overcome.
In reply to Post #1
Found this:
Edit, look a bit messy after copy/paste but 24% protein and 24% fats.
Product Name: Lamlac Freeflow
Product Type: Complete Milk Replacer for Lambs
Presentation: A free-flowing pale cream coloured powder with a creamy/vanilla aroma.
Composition: A spray dried product consisting of ultrafiltrated whey protein concentrate, a
blend of vegetable and coconut oil, cereals grain products and by-products,
organic acid, vitamins, minerals and d,l-methionine. Volac milk replacers do
not contain any bovine or ovine fat, bone, meat or blood products.
Analysis: Oil
Protein
Fibre
Ash
Moisture
Vitamin A
Vitamin D3
Vitamin E
Selenium
Copper
24.0%
24.0%
Nil
7.5%
5.0%
50.00 iu/kg
6,000 iu/kg
100 iu/kg
0.2 mg/kg
3mg/kg (none added)
(Max)
Other added vitamins and trace elements include: Vitamin K, Nicotinic Acid,
Pantothenic Acid, Vitamins B1, B2, B6, B12(non-GM), C, Biotin, Cobalt,
Magnesium, Iodine, Iron, Manganese, Zinc.
Found this:
Edit, look a bit messy after copy/paste but 24% protein and 24% fats.
Product Name: Lamlac Freeflow
Product Type: Complete Milk Replacer for Lambs
Presentation: A free-flowing pale cream coloured powder with a creamy/vanilla aroma.
Composition: A spray dried product consisting of ultrafiltrated whey protein concentrate, a
blend of vegetable and coconut oil, cereals grain products and by-products,
organic acid, vitamins, minerals and d,l-methionine. Volac milk replacers do
not contain any bovine or ovine fat, bone, meat or blood products.
Analysis: Oil
Protein
Fibre
Ash
Moisture
Vitamin A
Vitamin D3
Vitamin E
Selenium
Copper
24.0%
24.0%
Nil
7.5%
5.0%
50.00 iu/kg
6,000 iu/kg
100 iu/kg
0.2 mg/kg
3mg/kg (none added)
(Max)
Other added vitamins and trace elements include: Vitamin K, Nicotinic Acid,
Pantothenic Acid, Vitamins B1, B2, B6, B12(non-GM), C, Biotin, Cobalt,
Magnesium, Iodine, Iron, Manganese, Zinc.
In reply to Post #7
I can see a high fat content being a problem in winter if it locks up the bait so attractors don't escape. However in high summer I think it may be an advantage.
I can see a high fat content being a problem in winter if it locks up the bait so attractors don't escape. However in high summer I think it may be an advantage.
In reply to Post #11
So, to make the bait attractive in winter, what would you use ?
So, to make the bait attractive in winter, what would you use ?
In reply to Post #12
I suppose the easiest thing to do with this mix would be to reduce the lamlac % and increase the semolina and maize gold to compensate.
Is the lamlac that much higher in oil/ fat than vitamealo to make a real difference? I've checked the specs and lamlac has 4% more oil content. A slight tweak if you really think it is important. In depths of winter maybe. In summer I wouldn't worry about it at all.
I suppose the easiest thing to do with this mix would be to reduce the lamlac % and increase the semolina and maize gold to compensate.
Is the lamlac that much higher in oil/ fat than vitamealo to make a real difference? I've checked the specs and lamlac has 4% more oil content. A slight tweak if you really think it is important. In depths of winter maybe. In summer I wouldn't worry about it at all.
In reply to Post #13
I agree summer won't matter as much or at all. To a high a level Will make a bait go soft fairly quickly also in warm water. Again not an issue in the right situation.
I agree summer won't matter as much or at all. To a high a level Will make a bait go soft fairly quickly also in warm water. Again not an issue in the right situation.
In reply to Post #12
Substitute the Calf milk for skimmed milk powder if you believe in fats being a problem in winter that is.
Every other animal seeks fats in the colder temperatures as they are the most efficient energy source. Carbs being a poor 3rd behind lipids and protein. Just a thought!
Substitute the Calf milk for skimmed milk powder if you believe in fats being a problem in winter that is.
Every other animal seeks fats in the colder temperatures as they are the most efficient energy source. Carbs being a poor 3rd behind lipids and protein. Just a thought!