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Water lice. (12 posts / 2,858 views)
blank_bandit
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Post #1 29 Nov 2020 22:51
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Caught a pike dead baiting today from my carp syndicate (not fished it for a few years )and it was covered and I mean covered in lice . Leaches I'm used to but not seen anything like it before. Looks like argulus on doing some research.
how damaging are these little buggers
Wilberforce
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Post #2 30 Nov 2020 07:03
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Wansbeck and Cramlington Angling Club had a massive problem with pike deaths from Argulus about 20 or so years ago.
The result was nearly every pike in the QE2 lake at Ashington was found dead. It held a good stock of 20lb plus fish and hundreds of 8-10lb jacks and it has never recovered to it's previous form despite an attempted restocking.
Another local water had it's silver fish population badly infected but not the level of deaths.
From research Argulus appears to be particularly fatal to predatory fish inc. Salmonidae.
runneil runneil
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Post #3 30 Nov 2020 09:55
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The carp in my syndicate were hit particularly hard this year from argulus, it started with the flooding last winter which allowed the local river to pour into the lake, this effected the water quality which effected the over all health of the fish allowing the argulus to get a hold and penetrate the fishes natural defences, we lost a fair few but even more ended up with large sores where the argulus had been attached.

Like most fish disease they only get a real hold if the fish are stressed by another factor like water quality.
essesxandy essesxandy
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Post #4 30 Nov 2020 13:35
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As said, argulas can be a real problem and fatal to fish, including carp. Make sure that you report this to the people who run the syndicate so that they can take measures.
chrispfox chrispfox
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Post #5 30 Nov 2020 14:17
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A carp on my club lake came out covered in Argulus - we got in touch with the EA who came and took a look. They gave advice on some measures we can take and also said that colder water temps (below 8-9 degrees) kills them off.

Definitely let them know as they will come out and take a look
Baitman Baitman
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Post #6 30 Nov 2020 16:45
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If the club do any supplementary feeding then add some garlic powider to the cereal when soaking and cooking and this then goes into the fish and any external parasites that would feed on the fishes blood will soon drop off.
runneil runneil
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Post #7 30 Nov 2020 17:15
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Adding garlic to fish food has been a long time old school method for treating pet fish for parasites, rarely works in my experience.
Fara Fara
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Post #8 30 Nov 2020 18:54
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Is there a method for treating Argulus in lakes?
I've been told that placing black tubes in the lake encourages them to lay their eggs and then its a case of regularly removing and cleaning them off..
Baitman Baitman
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Post #9 30 Nov 2020 21:03
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It does work, but only to a small degree as you are only removing a small proportion of the eggs.
The garlic feed is by far the best way to break the life cycle.
Defiant.one Defiant.one
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Post #10 30 Nov 2020 21:55
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All it takes to keep Argulus in check is marginal weed and a good population of Stickleback, as they annihilate the larvae of Argulus as they hatch
Justin_Time Justin_Time
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Post #11 30 Nov 2020 21:59
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In reply to Post #10
That's interesting. I've known a water thick with lice but holding hoards of gudgeon, which would buzz.
garyh47
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Post #12 3 Dec 2020 19:34
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Argulas have been a massive problem this year with the warm wet winters not helping one bit!! In my experience it takes a lot colder temperatures than 9 degrees to kill this parasite.
Garlic does work to a certain degree but only as long as you are feeding the bait and has no long lasting solution.
Emametin Benzoate at the doses in a boilie is the best way to protect the fish for a season but this is prescription only and near on impossible to obtain.
If anybody has problems on there lakes with Argulas please let me know as I have plenty of Bezoate in stock as it's used every year on my fish farm!!
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