Hi people, is there a particular knot that people use for snag fishing (tying mainline to a looped leader) i had a knot slip a couple times last weekend. I do the '5 turn grinner' with ESP syncro 15lb and it has left me very confused as i use this knot all the time and never have problems. I was fishing tight to the snags and after every strike i would walk back immediately. Thanks in advance for any replies.
In reply to Post #1
You sure it slipped and didn't just break? Maybe in contact with the snag?
You sure it slipped and didn't just break? Maybe in contact with the snag?
In reply to Post #1
i wouldn't use a grinner for attaching a leader i feel when put under to much tension the grinner on a leader it will give way , palamor knot or if no loop an albright knot should do the trick mate !
i wouldn't use a grinner for attaching a leader i feel when put under to much tension the grinner on a leader it will give way , palamor knot or if no loop an albright knot should do the trick mate !
In reply to Post #1
What sort of leader is it?
I've tied leadcore leaders to mainline using a grinner or a tucked blood knot for years and they're solid.
What sort of leader is it?
I've tied leadcore leaders to mainline using a grinner or a tucked blood knot for years and they're solid.
I'd tie a figure of eight in the main line and tie it loop to loop. Mono to braid, lead core or fused fluoro or mono leaders or same with a braid mainline. Never had a problem over many years.
In reply to Post #5
I've had cm90 snap loop to loop on a fluoro leader. This just from me testing the knot in my hands. Hence why I moved over to mahin
I've had cm90 snap loop to loop on a fluoro leader. This just from me testing the knot in my hands. Hence why I moved over to mahin
In reply to Post #6
When snag fishing I'd suggest a main line straight through
Ok we can argue what set up is safe etc
Think worse case scenario, can you honestly say you have done
everything possible?
To be honest I shy away from snags , it's usually the easy option and I'd rather fish
elsewhere and not leave a fish tailing something in the event of a loss
When snag fishing I'd suggest a main line straight through
Ok we can argue what set up is safe etc
Think worse case scenario, can you honestly say you have done
everything possible?
To be honest I shy away from snags , it's usually the easy option and I'd rather fish
elsewhere and not leave a fish tailing something in the event of a loss
Hi Nathan
The grinner tightens under pressure, if your striking an already hooked fish (which you shouldn't really be doing mouth damage wise) under an already tight line the pressure on the knot will be immense, it will either break or fizz into itself as it tightens creating heat and a failure.
The knot works, just lift onto the fish and walk back slowly
Best
Jon
The grinner tightens under pressure, if your striking an already hooked fish (which you shouldn't really be doing mouth damage wise) under an already tight line the pressure on the knot will be immense, it will either break or fizz into itself as it tightens creating heat and a failure.
The knot works, just lift onto the fish and walk back slowly
Best
Jon
In reply to Post #8
At the very least keep testing until you find a knot that's suitable
I'm not being funny but you're already left tackle in the lake
What leader are you using?
At the very least keep testing until you find a knot that's suitable
I'm not being funny but you're already left tackle in the lake
What leader are you using?
In reply to Post #1
As already mentioned you need to test your knot strength at home and compare different ones as some do work better with certain lines, have you tried the grinner knot by passing the line through the loop twice before tying the grinner this sometimes gives a stronger knot, the palomar knot is very good and also with the esp you should be able to get a very strong fig of 8 loop knot.
Out of curiosity is it the normal esp or the loaded?
As already mentioned you need to test your knot strength at home and compare different ones as some do work better with certain lines, have you tried the grinner knot by passing the line through the loop twice before tying the grinner this sometimes gives a stronger knot, the palomar knot is very good and also with the esp you should be able to get a very strong fig of 8 loop knot.
Out of curiosity is it the normal esp or the loaded?
In reply to Post #1
When you say slipped, you got a curly tail back ?? Maybe look at loop to loop, 20lb+ straight through.
When you say slipped, you got a curly tail back ?? Maybe look at loop to loop, 20lb+ straight through.
In reply to Post #1
I wouldn't put a leader anywhere near when fishing directly to snags, I go mainline straight through.
I do use a snag leader when there are large blocks or branches on the lakebed that my line may rub over unintentionally when playing a fish.
When I fish to snags I point the rod directly at the snag, keep a mega tight line, no baitrunner and hit any bleep. sitting right next to the rods means I can strike at any indication. Usually, with a tight line the fish takes, and is pulled in an arc away from the snag.
I wouldn't put a leader anywhere near when fishing directly to snags, I go mainline straight through.
I do use a snag leader when there are large blocks or branches on the lakebed that my line may rub over unintentionally when playing a fish.
When I fish to snags I point the rod directly at the snag, keep a mega tight line, no baitrunner and hit any bleep. sitting right next to the rods means I can strike at any indication. Usually, with a tight line the fish takes, and is pulled in an arc away from the snag.