So I have since earlier in the year I have been having a go at rolling the carp forum base mix and reading up on bait, prior to that I was rolling ready made base mixes.
I am thinking ahead for winter and was wondering what are people's thoughts on oil type content within boilies for winter i.e. should it be reduced both in liquid and ingredient like CLO? look at an oil that doesn't solidify as much? Also is if worth including emulsifier to help break down the oils within the bait?
I am thinking ahead for winter and was wondering what are people's thoughts on oil type content within boilies for winter i.e. should it be reduced both in liquid and ingredient like CLO? look at an oil that doesn't solidify as much? Also is if worth including emulsifier to help break down the oils within the bait?
In reply to Post #1
No and no. Just keep on using it as is.
No and no. Just keep on using it as is.
In reply to Post #1
the BM1 looks very soluble as it is. I believe this faster breakdown even in colder water will release the oils
carry on as you were.
the BM1 looks very soluble as it is. I believe this faster breakdown even in colder water will release the oils
carry on as you were.
In reply to Post #1
Many fish with the same bait all year and still catch. You could fiddle with the oil content but its better to just keep on fishing with a bait you know the carp like to eat and have confidence in that.Once you start changing things you will never stop
Many fish with the same bait all year and still catch. You could fiddle with the oil content but its better to just keep on fishing with a bait you know the carp like to eat and have confidence in that.Once you start changing things you will never stop
In reply to Post #4
Agree with everyone's comments here. The only time I might think of changing it is if I were using an oil that may solidify at colder room temperatures, such as Brazil Nut Oil, but otherwise, no need to change it.
Agree with everyone's comments here. The only time I might think of changing it is if I were using an oil that may solidify at colder room temperatures, such as Brazil Nut Oil, but otherwise, no need to change it.
In reply to Post #1
For instance I use salmon oil which I keep in the fridge and it doesn't solidify. So much for fish oils going solid in cold water. Apply common sense rather than some old wives tales about not using oil in winter. The same people then use a bait full of ground nuts
For instance I use salmon oil which I keep in the fridge and it doesn't solidify. So much for fish oils going solid in cold water. Apply common sense rather than some old wives tales about not using oil in winter. The same people then use a bait full of ground nuts
In reply to Post #6
The key point here is testing any liquid oil/s that you may be thinking about using in a bait, keep it in the fridge overnight and if it is still liquid in the morning then it is OK to use.
I have used a few 'winterised oils' that aren't winterised in he real world, and are a thick sludge/or a solid 250/500ml in the morning
And fishmeal is not your enemy in the winter, used sensibly.
The key point here is testing any liquid oil/s that you may be thinking about using in a bait, keep it in the fridge overnight and if it is still liquid in the morning then it is OK to use.
I have used a few 'winterised oils' that aren't winterised in he real world, and are a thick sludge/or a solid 250/500ml in the morning
And fishmeal is not your enemy in the winter, used sensibly.
In reply to Post #1
After mulling it over I suppose the way to look at it is the added oil i.e. salmon or whatever is quite a small proportion of the whole, so as long I am happy that its winterised after testing in the fridge its unlikely to make much difference.
After mulling it over I suppose the way to look at it is the added oil i.e. salmon or whatever is quite a small proportion of the whole, so as long I am happy that its winterised after testing in the fridge its unlikely to make much difference.
In reply to Post #8
It also depends on what lipids/fats you already have in the ingredients in the basemix , I don't use oil in some of my mixes as they just don't warrant it and still roll a dream
It also depends on what lipids/fats you already have in the ingredients in the basemix , I don't use oil in some of my mixes as they just don't warrant it and still roll a dream
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Regarding macronutrients it's lower protein and a little less fat (and different types) in winter for me. Higher carbs of course. You really want the carp to continue eating regularly.
Asides from the above, gut transit time comes into play more so in winter. There's definitely room for experimentation there.
You can of course go far deeper than that, but that lot will pretty much do it as far as the nutrition side of things go.
Attraction is obviously a completely different matter.
Regarding macronutrients it's lower protein and a little less fat (and different types) in winter for me. Higher carbs of course. You really want the carp to continue eating regularly.
Asides from the above, gut transit time comes into play more so in winter. There's definitely room for experimentation there.
You can of course go far deeper than that, but that lot will pretty much do it as far as the nutrition side of things go.
Attraction is obviously a completely different matter.