On a lake I've been invited to guest this year a few times we are really struggling with the silvers in particular. Someone even put a go pro down on a spot and baited so they could see what was happening when they spombed out a few kilos of mixed particles and the silvers just smashed it to bits within 10 minutes.
Other than the boilie only approach which everyone is doing I was trying to find another way but just not sure it's worth tipping kilo after kilo in if the carp don't even get a chance.
In the past some people have done well on particle in there (nuts are banned) but it seems the silvers have continued to grow each year and now it's almost overrun by them. There is also a large head of bream and plenty of tench for good order too.
Just wanted to avoid putting big beds of bolies out like everyone else really
Other than the boilie only approach which everyone is doing I was trying to find another way but just not sure it's worth tipping kilo after kilo in if the carp don't even get a chance.
In the past some people have done well on particle in there (nuts are banned) but it seems the silvers have continued to grow each year and now it's almost overrun by them. There is also a large head of bream and plenty of tench for good order too.
Just wanted to avoid putting big beds of bolies out like everyone else really
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I'm in a similar situation as there are quite a few on the lakes I fish... I did try using 20mm baits or a double 16mm which did seem to help but no sure if that affected me getting less picks from carp
I'm in a similar situation as there are quite a few on the lakes I fish... I did try using 20mm baits or a double 16mm which did seem to help but no sure if that affected me getting less picks from carp
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28mm baits or more
28mm baits or more
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I have the same issue on my current venue. There is no bream but a quite a few tench and lots of silvers. I either go with a boilie only approach and if I am spodding or at close range with a catty I make sure to use some halved baits to stop them being pushing off the spot. I have seen large Rudd do this in the margins.
Depending on the feature I may introduce a very small amount of pellet/particle just to to create some additional attraction plus this also helps add weight to the spod. If the area I am fishing is very weedy I will only use whole and halved baits as I don't want to suspend anything else in the weed that would preoccupy the carp.
I have the same issue on my current venue. There is no bream but a quite a few tench and lots of silvers. I either go with a boilie only approach and if I am spodding or at close range with a catty I make sure to use some halved baits to stop them being pushing off the spot. I have seen large Rudd do this in the margins.
Depending on the feature I may introduce a very small amount of pellet/particle just to to create some additional attraction plus this also helps add weight to the spod. If the area I am fishing is very weedy I will only use whole and halved baits as I don't want to suspend anything else in the weed that would preoccupy the carp.
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As mentioned, 20mms, air dried shelf life if they are really having it
Feedbait, I would just fill it in as normal, all that activity usually gets the carp interested anyway. If cost is the issue then particle is you answer
Pop ups can deter roach a bit. I used to fish one water that was full of big roach, just used to hammer hookbaits, few hours later a rock hard 20mm down to 14 and a big roach on the end
I also think they can deal with tethered hookbaits better too, holds it down for them. I have had loads foul hooked around the outside of the mouth, hammering the hookbaits, little buggers
Stay WELL clear of pellet, they love it
Or tell your mates to use it
I always though predators would be the answer but the water had massive catfish in too, still out of control
As mentioned, 20mms, air dried shelf life if they are really having it
Feedbait, I would just fill it in as normal, all that activity usually gets the carp interested anyway. If cost is the issue then particle is you answer
Pop ups can deter roach a bit. I used to fish one water that was full of big roach, just used to hammer hookbaits, few hours later a rock hard 20mm down to 14 and a big roach on the end
I also think they can deal with tethered hookbaits better too, holds it down for them. I have had loads foul hooked around the outside of the mouth, hammering the hookbaits, little buggers
Stay WELL clear of pellet, they love it
Or tell your mates to use it
I always though predators would be the answer but the water had massive catfish in too, still out of control
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Currently get done about a kilo of parti mix per hour by the silvers if they get there before the carp, have added liquids, boilie & tiger nuts to leave something there hopefully, would happily use maples, chick peas, maize etc.
This is all in the edge where I can see what's happening, guys fishing further out seem oblivious to what maybe going on.
You can attempt to bait through them with big hits, my choice is to re-bait regularly, I haven't found it necessary to go down the big sized baits or singles....yet!
Currently get done about a kilo of parti mix per hour by the silvers if they get there before the carp, have added liquids, boilie & tiger nuts to leave something there hopefully, would happily use maples, chick peas, maize etc.
This is all in the edge where I can see what's happening, guys fishing further out seem oblivious to what maybe going on.
You can attempt to bait through them with big hits, my choice is to re-bait regularly, I haven't found it necessary to go down the big sized baits or singles....yet!