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DMPT (33 posts / 21,871 views)
Jimbo6745
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Post #1 19 Jul 2020 14:56
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Alright lads, I want to soak some hookbaits in some DMPT dissolved into hookbait soak. So for 20ml how how much DMPT should I be looking at? I know less is more with it I was thinking of maybe 1/2 gram?
lilharbs lilharbs
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Post #2 19 Jul 2020 16:42
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I've just had some 9f this rolled into my latest custom boilie mix, they recommended addition at 3-4ml per 6 eggs.
Jimbo6745
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Post #3 19 Jul 2020 16:53
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It's in powdered form?. And has a guideline of 2grams per kilo?. I didn't want to include it in a mix and boil most of it away I would rather dissolve it in liquid and soak it into the bait?.
Ynnek
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Post #4 19 Jul 2020 17:29
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In reply to Post #3
Same dosing is applied. So, I've your going to use 20ml to soak 1kg of boilies you can add 2gram.

Jimbo6745
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Post #5 19 Jul 2020 19:15
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Only using it to soak maybe 10 hookbaits. Was wondering if it would be too much neat as opposed to being boiled in a bait 👍🏼
Mr-Bean-Laden Mr-Bean-Laden
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Post #6 19 Jul 2020 19:59
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Ex Feedstim site:

In soak/dip for hook bait we recommend around 5-10 gr per litre liquid. So far less than you are proposing.

Using less is often better. If used too much the bait will not be taken!
AndyCarper82 AndyCarper82
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Post #7 19 Jul 2020 20:21
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so....
Get a litre of water, add the dmpt at the recommended level ( 5gr) , shake and coat boilie maybe 2 times allowing it to soak in.

sorted.

Then proceed to empty the lake?

Feedback/confirmation needed
Jimbo6745
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Post #8 19 Jul 2020 21:21
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Thanks lads I will just mix up a litre of it and use it as and when. Mr bean Laden I ment half as in 1/2 not 1 or 2 grams.I know it can act as a repellent if used in excess. Andy I don't know about emptying the lake a bite would do
BRB BRB
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Post #9 19 Jul 2020 21:37
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In reply to Post #8
Do not use this in your freebies either as a basemix ingredient or as a soak. It is a harmful substance that should not be fed to fish or animals.
Mr-Bean-Laden Mr-Bean-Laden
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Post #10 19 Jul 2020 22:18
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In reply to Post #8
0.5g in 20ml is 2.5%

Recommended level is 0.5-1% for boilie soak
Jimbo6745
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Post #11 19 Jul 2020 22:40
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BRB is it really?. Did a little bit of research and couldn't find anything that said it was harmful to fish?. I read a koi study on it and didn't understand the majority of it granted but nowhere stated it was harmful. The only thing I found was it is only to be used in hookbaits due to not being on the EU list of feed ingredients
Mr-Bean-Laden Mr-Bean-Laden
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Post #12 19 Jul 2020 23:04
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The EU bans many chemicals that are regarded as safe/ accepable elsewhere in the world. Too many tree huggers in places like Scandinavia. The Eu looks at hazard (ie the toxicity of the pure substance), as opposed to risk (ie how it is used taking into account low concentration use rates).

The Eu is a joke. If Japan and the USA are ok with it, I would happily use it it and not worry about fish safety. A bait suuplier cannot sadly say the same thing.
bluebeat13
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Post #13 19 Jul 2020 23:19
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In reply to Post #9
I'd be interested to know where you found evidence of DMPT being harmful to fish. I'm aware of the EU restrictions, this in itself does not support that it is harmful.
Ynnek
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Post #14 20 Jul 2020 12:47
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In reply to Post #6
Just be aware they addedan additive to avoid lumping of there dmpt.
And this additive doesn't dissolve in water as good as dmpt. Some sedimentation could occure
Jimbo6745
Posts: 422
Post #15 20 Jul 2020 19:38
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So agreeing that it is safe to use in free baits is it a worthwhile addition to a bait?. I'm currently using a high quality milk protein food bait using minimal free offerings. Or would it pay to limit it to hookbait only?.
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