Question about clipping the spod up in deep water ....
How much shorter do people clip there spod rod up to fishing rods in water of 18- 20 foot ??
Seen lots of different opinions on this
How much shorter do people clip there spod rod up to fishing rods in water of 18- 20 foot ??
Seen lots of different opinions on this
In reply to Post #1
I don't bother anymore
Watch this and make up your own mind
https://youtu.be/gBZ0OOW1C7c
I don't bother anymore
Watch this and make up your own mind
https://youtu.be/gBZ0OOW1C7c
In reply to Post #1
Watch this mate:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWAmnLeE0Fo
Watch this mate:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWAmnLeE0Fo
In reply to Post #1
The rule according to Fox and the underwater testing they did was to take off 1ft for every 4ft of water if the water is deeper than 10ft. The lake I fish is 32-34ft deep on average so to make life easier I just clip my Spomb 1 rod length shorter than my fishing rods. In your case it would be about 1/2 a rod length.
The rule according to Fox and the underwater testing they did was to take off 1ft for every 4ft of water if the water is deeper than 10ft. The lake I fish is 32-34ft deep on average so to make life easier I just clip my Spomb 1 rod length shorter than my fishing rods. In your case it would be about 1/2 a rod length.
In reply to Post #4
Cheers mate
Cheers mate
In reply to Post #5
1ft for every 4ft depth has always done me ok.
1ft for every 4ft depth has always done me ok.
It depends how far out you are fishing. 1 foot for every 4 foot may work at a specific distance from the bank but if you are fishing closer in or further out this will change. The further away from the bank you are fishing the smaller the difference will be due to the relatively smaller change in the angle on the line.
Edit: the youtube links posted by Yonny and Framey probaly address this but I haven't watched them. IIRC the videos I watched previously suggested that in 12 ft or less clip your spod and normal rod to the same distance.
Edit: the youtube links posted by Yonny and Framey probaly address this but I haven't watched them. IIRC the videos I watched previously suggested that in 12 ft or less clip your spod and normal rod to the same distance.
In reply to Post #7
The ranges can be anything from 40 yards upto 100 yards ...
Im fishing 60 - 80 which is around 18 foot deep .
The ranges can be anything from 40 yards upto 100 yards ...
Im fishing 60 - 80 which is around 18 foot deep .
In reply to Post #8
I also stick to 1 for every 4 and it's worked for me.
I also stick to 1 for every 4 and it's worked for me.
from the video below the thing I took from it is that casting 1/2 the depth of the water puts you on the spot. Think I might try this. Cast past the marker and spod at the same range as the marker. I fish a deep lake so being on the spot is more important to me than those who fish shallow waters.
I've had head scratching moments fishing 50ft plus depths and baiting spots accurately can be tricky in deep water. Even if you get the swing back math relatively right, you've still got undertow and drag to deal with. By the time the bait reaches the lake bed, it's likely not where you want it to be. Heavy groundbait like balls seems to work best. Spodding particle and pellets can be like pi55ing in the wind.
In reply to Post #11
Undertow travels in the opposite direction to wind/surface currents so imo they cancel each other out. But I do agree there are numerous factors that will lead to inaccuracy in baiting (wind, stretch, trajectory etc). For me that makes it all the more important to try our best to keep it as accurate as possible. Even then the 'bin lid' is at least the size of a bivvy imo.
I've never fished 50ft and can imagine that screws with your head mate.
Undertow travels in the opposite direction to wind/surface currents so imo they cancel each other out. But I do agree there are numerous factors that will lead to inaccuracy in baiting (wind, stretch, trajectory etc). For me that makes it all the more important to try our best to keep it as accurate as possible. Even then the 'bin lid' is at least the size of a bivvy imo.
I've never fished 50ft and can imagine that screws with your head mate.
In reply to Post #12
Undertow is the movement of water in the lower levels of the body of water. It is actually caused by wind action causing surface currents so they don't cancel each other out, they set up a rotational flow in the water powered by the winds energy. I agree that in most carp lakes it is not a problem and can be ignored. If you are fishing a lake that has the right conditions you have a real problem. Never mind a bivvy size bait area, you are talking tennis court or bigger, depending on depth, not to mention 4/5oz leads to hold bottom at any kind of range. Getting bait down accurately through 50 ft of water with a strong undertow and it staying where you want it, don't know how you do that. I would fish double bags or stringers or fish somewhere else until the wind drops.
Undertow is the movement of water in the lower levels of the body of water. It is actually caused by wind action causing surface currents so they don't cancel each other out, they set up a rotational flow in the water powered by the winds energy. I agree that in most carp lakes it is not a problem and can be ignored. If you are fishing a lake that has the right conditions you have a real problem. Never mind a bivvy size bait area, you are talking tennis court or bigger, depending on depth, not to mention 4/5oz leads to hold bottom at any kind of range. Getting bait down accurately through 50 ft of water with a strong undertow and it staying where you want it, don't know how you do that. I would fish double bags or stringers or fish somewhere else until the wind drops.
In reply to Post #13
Good post. Read an article by Steve Cliffe where he said that on Elstow if it was windy he didn't bother spodding as the bait would go everywhere which he didn't want. There he preferred to fish it in calm conditions so he can get his bait where he wants it. He did detail how he does it but I couldn't get my head round it. My approach going forward is to clip the fishing rod at half the depth of the water past the spot and clip the spomb at the same distance as the marker or Deeper.
Good post. Read an article by Steve Cliffe where he said that on Elstow if it was windy he didn't bother spodding as the bait would go everywhere which he didn't want. There he preferred to fish it in calm conditions so he can get his bait where he wants it. He did detail how he does it but I couldn't get my head round it. My approach going forward is to clip the fishing rod at half the depth of the water past the spot and clip the spomb at the same distance as the marker or Deeper.
Has anyone tried this before when fishing in deep water? Might be a possible fix:
(Would work best in not very windy conditions)
-Clip up fishing rod to same distance as spod rod
-Cast out a heavy lead without rig
-As soon as lead hits the water unclip and allow to sink on a free line
-Tighten up to lead and re-clip; this would be the distance for the fishing rods
-Measure difference between first and second clip positions for reference
(Not intended to account for undertow etc, just a possible way to measure swingback without doing heavy maths and would be custom tailored to the swim in front of you.)
(Would work best in not very windy conditions)
-Clip up fishing rod to same distance as spod rod
-Cast out a heavy lead without rig
-As soon as lead hits the water unclip and allow to sink on a free line
-Tighten up to lead and re-clip; this would be the distance for the fishing rods
-Measure difference between first and second clip positions for reference
(Not intended to account for undertow etc, just a possible way to measure swingback without doing heavy maths and would be custom tailored to the swim in front of you.)