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Combi vans and HMRC (11 posts / 1,153 views)
Chuffy Chuffy
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#1 1 Nov 2019 15:47
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Looking to get a VW Kombi but apparently HMRC now class them as car because they are multi use so you can't claim as much as on a panel van. Does anyone know if any of the models get round this such as weight etc or do you just have to swallow it?

Also does this apply to all combi vans or just VW's, what about the Transits etc?
Beave Beave
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#2 1 Nov 2019 19:08
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In reply to Post #1
If they are now doing it to VW kombis it will apply to all the rest .
Just get a normal van and pay to have side windows put in it so it doesn't show up on the log book as a duel use
Goose Goose
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#3 3 Nov 2019 15:37
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In reply to Post #2
And that will void your insurance and attract a premium if you declare it.
Beave Beave
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#4 3 Nov 2019 21:13
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In reply to Post #3
So just let your insurance company know you have added windows, it's no biggy .
I did a trafic all round a few years back for my dogs and that didn't cost me anything more in premiums.
Darkieallard
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#5 27 Nov 2019 17:53
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I thought as long as the carry weight is over 1 tonne which I'm not sure the Kombi is it can be classed a commercial vehicle, I'm now looking at getting a custom double cab.
Hitman Hitman
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#6 29 Nov 2019 20:31
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I've been looking at the merc Vito vans
Chuffy Chuffy
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#7 9 Dec 2019 17:47
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I like the way that on one hand the HMRC class it as 'not a van' then when it comes to Road Tax it miraculously turns into a van again
framey framey
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#8 9 Dec 2019 18:24
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In reply to Post #1
I bet the dart charge has it as a van lol
Chuffy Chuffy
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#9 6 Mar 2020 12:19
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UPDATE:
Seeing as there is little clear info on this I ended up phoning HMRC to try and get a definitive answer....that was a laugh as you can imagine!

As far as I could work out a T32 Kombi with a payload over 1 tonne would be classed as a commercial vehicle so here goes.....

So, the first chap I spoke to I think was maybe one of the cleaners who they'd let loose on the phones for the day, I then finally got to speak to one of the inspectors and their answer was basically ‘it's down to individual interpretation' and 'they can't give advice on individual circumstances' (so no chance of anything in writing). He did say however that a lot of the confusion comes from the way the VAT dept. treat this which is different than the way they do (the revenue dept)

Anyway, he did say that there are no specifics in their guidelines on Kombi vans but they have a definition for double cab pickups, again open to interpretation.

Meanwhile while chatting to him I found exactly what he was saying on an accountants firm's website, that as far as I can tell covers my vehicle, a T32 Kombi.


i.e. has dedicated load area bigger than the passenger seating area and,

has a payload of over 1 tonne (after the extra seats have been added)

.........the VW T32 ticks both those boxes

So, bottom line was ‘do what you like and if we decide to investigate it will be down to the individual inspectors assessment'.

Great help, not. So for tax purposes we are going to treat it as a commercial vehicle, so there!

VAT is probably another world of pain but I'm not VAT registered, so not a problem.
framey framey
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#10 6 Mar 2020 16:01
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In reply to Post #9
Still a pain having. To pay the 20% when you buy one though
Chuffy Chuffy
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#11 6 Mar 2020 16:43
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In reply to Post #10
‘Tis what it it is but paying the VAT on the purchase price wasn't my issue
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