I am slowly getting dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century and after having a couple of fish causing me problems with the other rods my boys tell me I should be using backloads..
Do you guys tie them on or just leave em hanging ? And if you tie em what length line would you use or ?
Do you guys tie them on or just leave em hanging ? And if you tie em what length line would you use or ?
There are two types, flying back leads - that are threaded on your line and 'fly' along it when you cast and pin the line down. Or some that you slip onto your line after the cast via a release clip and place in the position you want. They have a free run ring to allow minimal friction.
Not very well described but if you look at them in a tackle shop, you'll work it out.
Not very well described but if you look at them in a tackle shop, you'll work it out.
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21st century lol
Fox released a captive back leads in the 90s so technically old school
21st century lol
Fox released a captive back leads in the 90s so technically old school
If you use flying back leads beware of line twist which can ruin their use. If using back leads go for the type that can easily detach if snagged. Relate the weight of the back lead to the weight of the casting lead too light and it's pointless. Which means is it really necessary, as it Will reduce your indication somewhat.
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Well described for me. Flying ones sound like a whole heap of trouble to me , the slip on ones I have a few of but never used. Do they come off ? As I have some with a loop for tying them to the bank sticks or a peg.
Well described for me. Flying ones sound like a whole heap of trouble to me , the slip on ones I have a few of but never used. Do they come off ? As I have some with a loop for tying them to the bank sticks or a peg.
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Nearly all my gear was released in the 90s so should be at home with them
Nearly all my gear was released in the 90s so should be at home with them
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Thanks that info never gave that a thought about equal weight but it does make sense
Thanks that info never gave that a thought about equal weight but it does make sense
I love using backleads
The important thing is they MUST be heavier than the FULL possible weight of your indicators, otherwise you will get kiting and indication issues
Get a cheap set of digital scales for a fiver and check it all out, then you will have no problems whatsoever
Don't muck about, I just have a backlead that is nearly twice as heavy as whichever set of my indicators I am using
PS The Korda Intelligent ones are by MILES the best and worth every expensive penny, I have been on them for absolutely years now. The Fox Captive ones are good too but you have to oil and maintain the gate latch - I use the latter occassionally in the big 3oz ones when I want a very tight line and super heavy bobbin on
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Really depends on what's in front of you , if the lake is completely flat on the bottom and there is no weed etc between your rods and rig then back leads are a good way of getting your line pinned to the bottom to stop your other rods being wiped out by fish swimming through the lines.
Another way to consider if there is weed beds and snags etc is to position your rod wll back in your swim so that just the end eye is above the water and to use a slack or semi slack line.
Really depends on what's in front of you , if the lake is completely flat on the bottom and there is no weed etc between your rods and rig then back leads are a good way of getting your line pinned to the bottom to stop your other rods being wiped out by fish swimming through the lines.
Another way to consider if there is weed beds and snags etc is to position your rod wll back in your swim so that just the end eye is above the water and to use a slack or semi slack line.
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I tend to use captive back leads and fly back leads along with lead-core when I can. Although lead core isn't the 3 that was 1/4 and 1/2 ounces leads attached to curtain rings and silicon tube to close the curtain ring loop, although they quickly evolved and hit the market place during the 90s.
Fly back leads came around during the last 10 or so years although large bore bullet shot was about in the 90s.
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I tend to use captive back leads and fly back leads along with lead-core when I can. Although lead core isn't the 3 that was 1/4 and 1/2 ounces leads attached to curtain rings and silicon tube to close the curtain ring loop, although they quickly evolved and hit the market place during the 90s.
Fly back leads came around during the last 10 or so years although large bore bullet shot was about in the 90s.
Rarely have a bait out without one.
I buy them in bulk off eBay when I see a decent deal.
All in the clip for me - I want them virtually disposable, that is if I carefully reel in I can keep them but if I pull into a take that thing is gone.
Look at the clip on this link, filmsy as hell- perfect
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Carp-Back-Leads-10-x-1oz-approx-Camo-plastic-Coated-Carp-fishing-back-leads/264478742810?hash=item3d9429591a:g:npkAAOSwXc9cMglW
Those are spot on.
Tommy Thomas's post below is spot on too - make sure your indication is still sensitive enough.
I buy them in bulk off eBay when I see a decent deal.
All in the clip for me - I want them virtually disposable, that is if I carefully reel in I can keep them but if I pull into a take that thing is gone.
Look at the clip on this link, filmsy as hell- perfect
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Carp-Back-Leads-10-x-1oz-approx-Camo-plastic-Coated-Carp-fishing-back-leads/264478742810?hash=item3d9429591a:g:npkAAOSwXc9cMglW
Those are spot on.
Tommy Thomas's post below is spot on too - make sure your indication is still sensitive enough.
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Superb bits of kit in the right situation , open water no snags or weed and room to play with around the rod tips
Anything other than that and they can be a liability, limited indication, chance of wiping your other rods out while playing fish and the chance of losing the big one
If it all aligns then great if not nothing but trouble
I love em but they need treating with some thought
Superb bits of kit in the right situation , open water no snags or weed and room to play with around the rod tips
Anything other than that and they can be a liability, limited indication, chance of wiping your other rods out while playing fish and the chance of losing the big one
If it all aligns then great if not nothing but trouble
I love em but they need treating with some thought
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If using the fox captive back leads , I always clip the line up as when the line tightens to the clip on a take it makes the back lead come of cleanly and not bouncing around and then tangling around your line .
If using the fox captive back leads , I always clip the line up as when the line tightens to the clip on a take it makes the back lead come of cleanly and not bouncing around and then tangling around your line .
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That helps for sure
That helps for sure
Thanks again guys. I am getting the idea. And will give em a go when I am next in the right situation