Imagine ingredient cost did not matter at all.
What would be your ultimate base mix milk protein recipe?
By that, I mean, no fishmeal, birdfood, nutmeal etc... Just a pure milk, using anything you could, including hydro milks at any level.
Not meaning any pre-packed basemixes either (Hi Nu Val or the like).
What would be your ultimate base mix milk protein recipe?
By that, I mean, no fishmeal, birdfood, nutmeal etc... Just a pure milk, using anything you could, including hydro milks at any level.
Not meaning any pre-packed basemixes either (Hi Nu Val or the like).
In reply to Post #1
When you get an answer I'll flavour it with pineapple add a sweetener , dye it red. It will be the ultimate big roach bait. Let me know when its ready to go.
When you get an answer I'll flavour it with pineapple add a sweetener , dye it red. It will be the ultimate big roach bait. Let me know when its ready to go.
In reply to Post #1
Is it for now, winter?
Useless in summer!
Is it for now, winter?
Useless in summer!
In reply to Post #3
Think of it as more a theoretical question.... But yes, let's say it is for winter (being as it's snowing in Dorset)
Think of it as more a theoretical question.... But yes, let's say it is for winter (being as it's snowing in Dorset)
In reply to Post #3
Why useless in the summer?
Why useless in the summer?
In reply to Post #1
There is 'Supermilk Gold' from John Baker - 'only designed for milk-protein fanatics', £18.99 per kilo:
https://www.johnbakerbaits.com/product/supermilk-gold/
There is 'Supermilk Gold' from John Baker - 'only designed for milk-protein fanatics', £18.99 per kilo:
https://www.johnbakerbaits.com/product/supermilk-gold/
In reply to Post #6
Not meaning any pre-packed basemixes either
Not meaning any pre-packed basemixes either
In reply to Post #1
The problem I have with your question is that I would not a 100% milk protein bait, I would always want some ingredients in to provide fat and to make it easier to roll. Also would want egg albumin in their to reduce boiling times.
It would include casein and whey protein, not that fussed over calcium caseinate. If available I would definitely have hydrolysed whey in there.
Most important to me with milk proteins is getting the bait into the freezer asap, the guy who rolls my bait understands and they are still warm from boiling when I pick them up.
The problem I have with your question is that I would not a 100% milk protein bait, I would always want some ingredients in to provide fat and to make it easier to roll. Also would want egg albumin in their to reduce boiling times.
It would include casein and whey protein, not that fussed over calcium caseinate. If available I would definitely have hydrolysed whey in there.
Most important to me with milk proteins is getting the bait into the freezer asap, the guy who rolls my bait understands and they are still warm from boiling when I pick them up.
In reply to Post #8
Hi, yep no issues with having some egg albumin in as per the purpose you mentioned.
The question is a kind of theoretical one, as I also would want fats etc, but I guess what I'm getting at, is that would it be possible to create a 'on paper' better milk protein bait, based on the easier availability (to the home roller) of hydrolysed milks and isolates, than those that were considered the best ones in days gone by (eg Rods Protein Mix, HiNuVal and MetaBait... Although the latter did contain hydro's)?
Hi, yep no issues with having some egg albumin in as per the purpose you mentioned.
The question is a kind of theoretical one, as I also would want fats etc, but I guess what I'm getting at, is that would it be possible to create a 'on paper' better milk protein bait, based on the easier availability (to the home roller) of hydrolysed milks and isolates, than those that were considered the best ones in days gone by (eg Rods Protein Mix, HiNuVal and MetaBait... Although the latter did contain hydro's)?
In reply to Post #9
I think it's a good question as I really rate milk protein in a boilie, perhaps not as the main or majority constituents but certainly at least 10%
In the past used much more, probably up to 60% but not sure the worth of that quantity any more.
I think it's a good question as I really rate milk protein in a boilie, perhaps not as the main or majority constituents but certainly at least 10%
In the past used much more, probably up to 60% but not sure the worth of that quantity any more.
In reply to Post #1
Hi NW,
300 MPC
250 soya bean meal
150 semo
100 WPH
100 peptopro
100 nucleotide yeast
30 ml oil
6 citric acid
50 blood plasma
BB.
Hi NW,
300 MPC
250 soya bean meal
150 semo
100 WPH
100 peptopro
100 nucleotide yeast
30 ml oil
6 citric acid
50 blood plasma
BB.
In reply to Post #11
Loving that BB!
Loving that BB!
In reply to Post #9
My Default High Protein mix would be as follows, which I would imagine wasn't too far off of Rods Protein Mix, IMHO.
20% Rennet Casein
20% Acid Casein
20% Lactalbumin
20% Calcium Caseinate
20% Soya Isolate
My Default High Protein mix would be as follows, which I would imagine wasn't too far off of Rods Protein Mix, IMHO.
20% Rennet Casein
20% Acid Casein
20% Lactalbumin
20% Calcium Caseinate
20% Soya Isolate
In reply to Post #1
Acid casein - 5%
Rennet casein - 5%
Lactabumen 15%
Whey protein concentrate 80 - 6%
Whey hydrolisate - 4%
Whole milk powder (fats) - 10%
Vitamealo (vitamins&minerals and fats also) - 25%
Blue Cheese powder - 8%
Maltodextrine -7%
Lactose 3%
Nectarblend - 12%
Flavor
Acid casein - 5%
Rennet casein - 5%
Lactabumen 15%
Whey protein concentrate 80 - 6%
Whey hydrolisate - 4%
Whole milk powder (fats) - 10%
Vitamealo (vitamins&minerals and fats also) - 25%
Blue Cheese powder - 8%
Maltodextrine -7%
Lactose 3%
Nectarblend - 12%
Flavor
In reply to Post #12
Hi NW,
I haven't checked for FLAA, but would make sure it was covered by adjusting ingredients.
Also, you and I would be adding enzymes.
BB.
Hi NW,
I haven't checked for FLAA, but would make sure it was covered by adjusting ingredients.
Also, you and I would be adding enzymes.
BB.