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Frozen and shelfies (195 posts / 10,077 views)
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #121 4 Jul 2022 18:16
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thats all well land good, but if you get inspected, do you keep records, batch codes, storage methods, pest control records, temperature records...i could go on!
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #122 4 Jul 2022 19:13
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Mozzi, this is only an offer, and if you would like me to look at your policies and procedures, im more than happy too.

i want nothing in return
Mozzi Mozzi
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Post #123 4 Jul 2022 19:14
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Yes, and those batch codes are the bane of my life because dependant on the day the batch we produce may cross over basemix ( from two drums for example end of one beginning fo another ) plus the basemixes are, highly complex. For an understatement lol. And obviously each batch of basemix might be made from cross over sacks of ingredient and so on and so on.

I'm not entirely sure how long I am meant to hold these records for, no one seems to give a s*** lol
Mozzi Mozzi
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Post #124 4 Jul 2022 19:16
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I appreciate that, we're moving later in tge year and I may come to you for some brain storming on the easiest compliant lay outs etc. I'm sure there is areas of my operation I can improve!
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #125 4 Jul 2022 19:17
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2 years in general, seems rather excessive in my book.

so with your process, it would seem like stock control, rotation and storage is your key to compliance

Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #126 4 Jul 2022 19:18
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every single producer can improve, if they say they cant, then they are watched further...

always best to get ahead of the game in my book.
Mozzi Mozzi
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Post #127 4 Jul 2022 19:19
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That and handling.

Given how sensitive carp are I plan around minimal clean in the day I.e each day everything is cleaned down once as I will only roll tge fishmeal one day tge nut bait the next. We rinse everything a LOT due to my OCD.

Two years?! Mine go back 7, didn't realise I had to keep em the first year lol. Time for a clear out
Goose Goose
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Post #128 4 Jul 2022 19:40
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As you know someone I know has recently started up on a small scale and is bait recipe obsessed. He has been inspected for licencing which he now has but said he found the inspection very helpful with a great deal of advice from the inspector.
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #129 4 Jul 2022 19:43
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nothing wrong with keep records for longer!

Storage is handling really

forget carp, think production, start with procurement, the rest falls into place
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #130 4 Jul 2022 19:44
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Thats good to know as inspectors, can be your best friend and your worst enemy if one wont take notice
snapper1 snapper1
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Post #131 4 Jul 2022 19:54
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This thread is a real eye opener, hats of to those who do the bait
And all it entails
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #132 4 Jul 2022 19:58
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it can be a bit of a mine field at times.

food for thought when people keep asking for "cheap bait"
NickGordon NickGordon
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Post #133 4 Jul 2022 20:13
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I must admit to a bit of vested interest as I did used to work in Copdock Mill shop myself.
I don't know how it is done now, but when I loaded the loose buckets I could not fit a whole bag in, so the extra would go underneath the table, still in the bag. When the bag was empty, I left the empty bag underneath until the buckets needed to be refilled.

Not perfect record keeping, but gave me traceability.

Now, here is where we have some possible contention. Out of date products, damaged items, bags, cans of all items animal feeds, bait, pellets could be sold, but sold as OUT OF DATE, or damaged with the reference on till as 'Splits', a price agreed between buyer and seller. This could actually include goods within date, but a split bag.

There were some Fisheries and bait companies from 1man bands to someone rather larger that would buy split bags, be that Baileys No.1, dented tins of sweetcorn, Vitalin, birdfoods, pellets, or whatever.



Mozzi Mozzi
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Post #134 4 Jul 2022 20:17
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Can. Understand why so many fill them with hovis finest now lol.

What I really need is massive investment, I look at all tge areas I bottle next or fall short and it's always where I've had to make compromise.

If I were starting again from scratch I'd not even entertain the idea without at least 100k capital to start it.
scaley&dark
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Post #135 4 Jul 2022 20:19
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Exactly. Food for thought.
I personally find the input on this thread from Frenzy, Mozzi and everyone that has contributed so far, really informative to me, and any interested home/commercial bait rollers.

Also any ready rolled boile users that have no time/or interest in making bait as it puts some of the 'hidden costs' and human labour time, besides ingredient price rises, that need to needs be factored into the final end user price.

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