In reply to Post #121
Not from the police procedure that I've seen. I think the guy is lying his arse off.
Not from the police procedure that I've seen. I think the guy is lying his arse off.
In reply to Post #119
So facts are racism now? Kys why do people do this? So attempting to reason why cops would behave in a certain way given the evidence, just, just no.
So let's put things into a different scenario: say cops in the US were looking for drunk drivers, the evidence on previous convictions shows that young people in their 20's are 80% [of 100%] to be caught driving under the influence of alcohol, whereas 20% of [100%] are over 50's are caught driving under the influence, who do you think the cops are more likely to be on the lookout for? I have no idea of their methodology, just looking to see reason as to why. Just for you... https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2017/12/07/police-officer-said-black-people-commit-crime-wasnt-racist-7140683/amp/
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2017/crime-in-the-u.s.-2017/tables/table-43
Have fun with the stats.
So facts are racism now? Kys why do people do this? So attempting to reason why cops would behave in a certain way given the evidence, just, just no.
So let's put things into a different scenario: say cops in the US were looking for drunk drivers, the evidence on previous convictions shows that young people in their 20's are 80% [of 100%] to be caught driving under the influence of alcohol, whereas 20% of [100%] are over 50's are caught driving under the influence, who do you think the cops are more likely to be on the lookout for? I have no idea of their methodology, just looking to see reason as to why. Just for you... https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2017/12/07/police-officer-said-black-people-commit-crime-wasnt-racist-7140683/amp/
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2017/crime-in-the-u.s.-2017/tables/table-43
Have fun with the stats.
In reply to Post #124
Sounds like you're speculating
Unlike the guy who does know the exact details of correct police procedure in Minneapolis- who is 'apparently ' lying his arse off....
Sounds like you're speculating
Unlike the guy who does know the exact details of correct police procedure in Minneapolis- who is 'apparently ' lying his arse off....
In reply to Post #122
He didn't OD and if you believe these conspiracy theorist, **** stirring, fame hungry little *****s who manipulate facts and people on YouTube and Twitter over your own eyes you need to pull yourself together
He didn't OD and if you believe these conspiracy theorist, **** stirring, fame hungry little *****s who manipulate facts and people on YouTube and Twitter over your own eyes you need to pull yourself together
In reply to Post #127
Overdosed very recently prior to this interaction with cops and was taken to hospital because of overdose. No conspiracy, no Twitter whatever--> facts.
Overdosed very recently prior to this interaction with cops and was taken to hospital because of overdose. No conspiracy, no Twitter whatever--> facts.
In reply to Post #128
The copper was restraining a corpse for over 2 1/2 minutes- ->facts
You hate black people, we get it. But you're defending the indefensible in your allegiance to the aryan race
The copper was restraining a corpse for over 2 1/2 minutes- ->facts
You hate black people, we get it. But you're defending the indefensible in your allegiance to the aryan race
In reply to Post #129
Seriously, how dare you say I hate black people. I suggest.you stop making accusations.
Seriously, how dare you say I hate black people. I suggest.you stop making accusations.
Just so we're clear on this point: I couldn't care less what colour of skin the people in this trial are, that's not my interest. My interest lays in what the facts are, and then what the jury decides.
The racism component of this trial has been highly manipulated from what I can make out. Whether or not the cop was racist and killed Floyd because of the colour of his skin remains to be seen, i can't say one way or another in that regard; maybe he is, maybe he is isn't, maybe we'll find out in due course.
The racism component of this trial has been highly manipulated from what I can make out. Whether or not the cop was racist and killed Floyd because of the colour of his skin remains to be seen, i can't say one way or another in that regard; maybe he is, maybe he is isn't, maybe we'll find out in due course.
In reply to Post #131
Your interest lays in the facts until the person in the know states something you don't agree with and then you say he's lying his arse off....
There's an undercurrent to this thread that suggests some people care more about 'proving' it wasn't race related than focusing on the 'fact' that a man died whilst under the knee of a police officer. All the while saying the colour of a mans skin is irrelevant.
Chauvin isn't on trial for racism. So let's maybe cut the white victimhood b.s.
As fishie rightly said earlier. Only Chauvin really knows if he acted differently because Floyd was black. And he's hardly likely to admit to it is he?
The defence witness made some points that were pretty easily dismissed by some basic questioning from the prosecution.
The 'threat' of the nearby crowd for example.
Your interest lays in the facts until the person in the know states something you don't agree with and then you say he's lying his arse off....
There's an undercurrent to this thread that suggests some people care more about 'proving' it wasn't race related than focusing on the 'fact' that a man died whilst under the knee of a police officer. All the while saying the colour of a mans skin is irrelevant.
Chauvin isn't on trial for racism. So let's maybe cut the white victimhood b.s.
As fishie rightly said earlier. Only Chauvin really knows if he acted differently because Floyd was black. And he's hardly likely to admit to it is he?
The defence witness made some points that were pretty easily dismissed by some basic questioning from the prosecution.
The 'threat' of the nearby crowd for example.
In reply to Post #132
>The 'threat' of the nearby crowd for example
I can't remember.the exact words that the MMA guy used, something like 'id slap you bitch cop mother f..ker' or words to that effect, added to that the other hostile people in the crowd, apparently the cops are taught to act in a certain way if they perceive a threat.
Now, put yourself in the shoes of the cops, how would you react, how do you think things could go down in an area by all accounts that is very shady?
All of that aside: I do think that things should have been handled differently; so easy to say in hindsight and you are not the person involved in all of this. I think Floyd should have been cuffed in the car, taken to the police station and dealt with there. From what I gather and have seen spoken of by active US cops, someone showing signs of excited delirium [some say this is bulls-hit and not acknowledged by WHO etc] that the restraint method used was and is normal police tactics. Either way, the tactics used put both the suspect and the cop using this sort of method in a very dicey situation.
>The 'threat' of the nearby crowd for example
I can't remember.the exact words that the MMA guy used, something like 'id slap you bitch cop mother f..ker' or words to that effect, added to that the other hostile people in the crowd, apparently the cops are taught to act in a certain way if they perceive a threat.
Now, put yourself in the shoes of the cops, how would you react, how do you think things could go down in an area by all accounts that is very shady?
All of that aside: I do think that things should have been handled differently; so easy to say in hindsight and you are not the person involved in all of this. I think Floyd should have been cuffed in the car, taken to the police station and dealt with there. From what I gather and have seen spoken of by active US cops, someone showing signs of excited delirium [some say this is bulls-hit and not acknowledged by WHO etc] that the restraint method used was and is normal police tactics. Either way, the tactics used put both the suspect and the cop using this sort of method in a very dicey situation.
Very interesting thread. I really hope it doesn't get shut down as I believe we need to have these conversations and express ourselves and believes freely (with respect of course).
GF - I suppose really what it boils down to is whether he would have died if he hadn't seen the police that day.........
GF - I suppose really what it boils down to is whether he would have died if he hadn't seen the police that day.........
In reply to Post #134
I think that had he not been in that shop with that money, if he had overdosed as I'm suggesting, he was in the company of others and most likely have been taken to the hospital if he had got into difficulties. Coming across the cops was - so the evidence implies - was a contributing factor in his death unfortunately.
Was Chauvin responsible for Floyd's death? Could be in-part, was it on purpose? From the footage I've seen, I don't think so.
Whatever verdict is made, either way, America is going to burn, it's already started unfortunately with this latest shooting and is only going to get ramped up by agitators and so called activists, I also think similar will happen worldwide; a s-hitstorm is coming.
I think that had he not been in that shop with that money, if he had overdosed as I'm suggesting, he was in the company of others and most likely have been taken to the hospital if he had got into difficulties. Coming across the cops was - so the evidence implies - was a contributing factor in his death unfortunately.
Was Chauvin responsible for Floyd's death? Could be in-part, was it on purpose? From the footage I've seen, I don't think so.
Whatever verdict is made, either way, America is going to burn, it's already started unfortunately with this latest shooting and is only going to get ramped up by agitators and so called activists, I also think similar will happen worldwide; a s-hitstorm is coming.
In reply to Post #114
Possibly,, but you would not expect them both to reassemble a gun handle either
Rock, paper, scissors in the dark, could have been her dildo, saying that, she probably put the battery's in the wrong way round
In the headlights, shocked, and people can do pretty crazy things
Possibly,, but you would not expect them both to reassemble a gun handle either
Rock, paper, scissors in the dark, could have been her dildo, saying that, she probably put the battery's in the wrong way round
In the headlights, shocked, and people can do pretty crazy things
In reply to Post #133
All of that aside: I do think that things should have been handled differently;
It's a start I guess.
Jesus.
All of that aside: I do think that things should have been handled differently;
It's a start I guess.
Jesus.
In reply to Post #130
It's obvious
And in those US crime figures you posted, yes, black people were responsible for a greater number of murders, robberies and illegal gambling. That's the result of the environment they are given to survive in.
Why not stop all the people in the rape, assault, theft of property, fraud, offences against your own family (!?) and drugs categories?
They are also arrest statistics, not convictions. And we all know you can be arrested in the US for basically being brown. Then morons lap up the ‘facts' and the cycle of hate and division continues.
Wonder why we demonise black violence but romanticise the likes of the mafia, the Krays and even Bruce Lee?
It's obvious
And in those US crime figures you posted, yes, black people were responsible for a greater number of murders, robberies and illegal gambling. That's the result of the environment they are given to survive in.
Why not stop all the people in the rape, assault, theft of property, fraud, offences against your own family (!?) and drugs categories?
They are also arrest statistics, not convictions. And we all know you can be arrested in the US for basically being brown. Then morons lap up the ‘facts' and the cycle of hate and division continues.
Wonder why we demonise black violence but romanticise the likes of the mafia, the Krays and even Bruce Lee?