I think it is important to consider all of the variables - diameter, type of line (for example HydroTuff versus a line aimed at distance casting) and the breaking strain. Generally I would look at the diameter then the breaking strain, diameter for me in my scenarios is more 'important' due to the heavy weed, but I would also always look at the BS.
So look at all the variables, and make your choice
Gardner Pro and HydroTuff both perform excellently in weed in my experience, if that helps, with Hydro being the more resilient line - it's an animal!
So look at all the variables, and make your choice
Gardner Pro and HydroTuff both perform excellently in weed in my experience, if that helps, with Hydro being the more resilient line - it's an animal!
In reply to Post #91
ESP Syncro .037 the best mono I've used
ESP Syncro .037 the best mono I've used
In reply to Post #85
15LB BG and Sensor 15LB are both great stuff imo
always found 15LB BG to be very reliable Sensor is a bit better behaved
15LB BG and Sensor 15LB are both great stuff imo
always found 15LB BG to be very reliable Sensor is a bit better behaved
In reply to Post #91
When Daiwa Sensor first came out, and in Tackle Box's first line tests, I'm positive there was no line diameter marked on the spool, just the breaking strain. It was after the line tests were done that Daiwa started adding diameter to the label.
I know that the original Daiwa Tournament line was marked in diameter, 0.35mm for Tournament casting, (d'oh), and 15lb, and that the next Tournament rated line of 18lb was 0.38mm.
To those was added a shockleader of a specific diameter for Tournament casting rules.
I'm not a good enough caster for the Tournament line being 0.01mm thinner to make much difference. With Sensor on 2.75lb TC rods I could stick a 3oz lead 125metres, would 0.01mm gain me much?
I am exactly the same with Gardner Pro, I can stick a 3.5oz lead around the same with 3.25lb rods. Screwed shoulders now hold back my casting.
I can remember Bayer Perlon had diameters marked, but again years ago, in my teens, I used 3 or 4lb for float fishing and stepped up to 6lb on the lead.
I don't think that Sylcast had diameter marked on the spool, we used 8lb on the Cardinals or Mitchell's as standard.
An afterthought, since there are so few line factories in the world, it is probable that Sylcast, Bayer and Platil, all similar lines are made at the same factory.
15LB BG and Sensor 15LB are both great stuff imo
always found 15LB BG to be very reliable Sensor is a bit better behaved
I know a few people have mentioned that Daiwa Sensor is not as good as it used to be.
I noticed when I used Big Game it it was wiry and horrible, it did not lay well on the reels.
Quite obviously, since I didn't look, it is because 15lb Big Game is thicker than 15lb Sensor.
When Daiwa Sensor first came out, and in Tackle Box's first line tests, I'm positive there was no line diameter marked on the spool, just the breaking strain. It was after the line tests were done that Daiwa started adding diameter to the label.
I know that the original Daiwa Tournament line was marked in diameter, 0.35mm for Tournament casting, (d'oh), and 15lb, and that the next Tournament rated line of 18lb was 0.38mm.
To those was added a shockleader of a specific diameter for Tournament casting rules.
I'm not a good enough caster for the Tournament line being 0.01mm thinner to make much difference. With Sensor on 2.75lb TC rods I could stick a 3oz lead 125metres, would 0.01mm gain me much?
I am exactly the same with Gardner Pro, I can stick a 3.5oz lead around the same with 3.25lb rods. Screwed shoulders now hold back my casting.
I can remember Bayer Perlon had diameters marked, but again years ago, in my teens, I used 3 or 4lb for float fishing and stepped up to 6lb on the lead.
I don't think that Sylcast had diameter marked on the spool, we used 8lb on the Cardinals or Mitchell's as standard.
An afterthought, since there are so few line factories in the world, it is probable that Sylcast, Bayer and Platil, all similar lines are made at the same factory.
15LB BG and Sensor 15LB are both great stuff imo
always found 15LB BG to be very reliable Sensor is a bit better behaved
I know a few people have mentioned that Daiwa Sensor is not as good as it used to be.
I noticed when I used Big Game it it was wiry and horrible, it did not lay well on the reels.
Quite obviously, since I didn't look, it is because 15lb Big Game is thicker than 15lb Sensor.
In reply to Post #51
That's all well and good but what main line do you think might be the best for fishing in weed?
That's all well and good but what main line do you think might be the best for fishing in weed?
In reply to Post #95
Go back to post 21, I posted that before carpe diem tried to turn it into an urinating contest.
Gardner Pro Light in 15lb is on the reels now and I will fill up with the same when I change my line in the next few weeks.
Never lost a fish in weed using it, although that comment will be the kiss of death...
Go back to post 21, I posted that before carpe diem tried to turn it into an urinating contest.
Gardner Pro Light in 15lb is on the reels now and I will fill up with the same when I change my line in the next few weeks.
Never lost a fish in weed using it, although that comment will be the kiss of death...
In reply to Post #96
Pro lite in 15lb is 0.34 and breaks at little more than the stated 15lb,surely for use in weed the xm version or hydro tuff would be superior.
Pro lite in 15lb is 0.34 and breaks at little more than the stated 15lb,surely for use in weed the xm version or hydro tuff would be superior.
In reply to Post #97
I agree with that - when I said pro in previous post I meant pro xm in 20lb / 0.4
I agree with that - when I said pro in previous post I meant pro xm in 20lb / 0.4
In reply to Post #98
Have you used yet? Not seen it in any of my locals to have a look.
Have you used yet? Not seen it in any of my locals to have a look.
In reply to Post #97
You're wasting your breath Goose , as long as it says 15lb on the spool he thinks it's suitable no matter what the diameter is
You're wasting your breath Goose , as long as it says 15lb on the spool he thinks it's suitable no matter what the diameter is
In reply to Post #99
Yes - been using for a while. It's really good, I went through a stage of trying a few and this is my favourite
Yes - been using for a while. It's really good, I went through a stage of trying a few and this is my favourite
In reply to Post #98
I have used the xm it's a good line it only has the dia 0.40 on the spool not the b/s.
I have used the xm it's a good line it only has the dia 0.40 on the spool not the b/s.
In reply to Post #102
And a read through the Gardner site is as conclusive as this thread. They state themselves the tougher lines are underrated to account for different knots etc.
And a read through the Gardner site is as conclusive as this thread. They state themselves the tougher lines are underrated to account for different knots etc.
In reply to Post #103
Yes and the spools when you look online, some have the BS on, and some don't
I think I need a lie down It's all too much, I blame the government
Yes and the spools when you look online, some have the BS on, and some don't
I think I need a lie down
It's all too much, I blame the government
In reply to Post #97
I have tested the Pro before using it, as I do all lines, and it stands up to the weed with no problems.
In fact, it also stands up to branches as well.
After the debacle of Nash Bullet, Every line I use, has been given a full test, best knot, abrasion resistance, line twist even before I use it for fishing.
It amuses me still that a budget line is frequently better than more high priced alternatives.
I have tested the Pro before using it, as I do all lines, and it stands up to the weed with no problems.
In fact, it also stands up to branches as well.
After the debacle of Nash Bullet, Every line I use, has been given a full test, best knot, abrasion resistance, line twist even before I use it for fishing.
It amuses me still that a budget line is frequently better than more high priced alternatives.