In reply to Post #71
Good to see this discussion ongoing, but there are some posts that are highly incorrect; #71, #73, #75, as is the post above.
Calorie counting to lose weight is completely wrong, and misunderstands why we gain weight as we get older to begin with.
Some basic facts that cannot be argued with especially by a bunch of smelly carp anglers:
Stored fat reserves can not be used as energy fuel when in the presence of insulin, which is released in response to ingesting sugar and carbs.
Continual eating sugar and carbs frequently (or usually) leads to Insulin resistance, whereby the blood glucose can no longer be utilised by the cells and gets stored as fat, no matter how much exercise is taken.
Insulin resistance is they key; avoid this happening and you will be far healthier; follow a low carb high fat 'diet' (read long term way of life eating habit). A diet is not a temporary thing to do to shift a few kg's, it should be permanent.
Keto can work for some of us but is not always sustainable; you have to find a balance of protein / carbs / fats, and some can tolerate zero carbs. For many, up to 100-200 grams of carbs a day may be needed, I take about 40-50gms a day max.
CARBS ARE THE ISSUE, NOT FAT..
Eat NO processed food, absolutely none; you have no idea what you are eating.
Losing weight is not about caloric deficit though this can appear to work but is not sustainable, you need to change your body's set point, otherwise your body WILL adjust to get back to your previous weight regardless of CD.
Fasting; the way to drop weight, eat in a 8-6 hr window 2 meals, say 1pm and 7-8pm, then fast, nothing until next 1pm. If you feel craving a black coffee with MCT oil will dissipate hunger, it works, takes a bit of time to get used to it but weak in the head = weak in the body..
Forget calories; waste of time, learn about insulin resistance reversal instead.
Good to see this discussion ongoing, but there are some posts that are highly incorrect; #71, #73, #75, as is the post above.
Calorie counting to lose weight is completely wrong, and misunderstands why we gain weight as we get older to begin with.
Some basic facts that cannot be argued with especially by a bunch of smelly carp anglers:
Stored fat reserves can not be used as energy fuel when in the presence of insulin, which is released in response to ingesting sugar and carbs.
Continual eating sugar and carbs frequently (or usually) leads to Insulin resistance, whereby the blood glucose can no longer be utilised by the cells and gets stored as fat, no matter how much exercise is taken.
Insulin resistance is they key; avoid this happening and you will be far healthier; follow a low carb high fat 'diet' (read long term way of life eating habit). A diet is not a temporary thing to do to shift a few kg's, it should be permanent.
Keto can work for some of us but is not always sustainable; you have to find a balance of protein / carbs / fats, and some can tolerate zero carbs. For many, up to 100-200 grams of carbs a day may be needed, I take about 40-50gms a day max.
CARBS ARE THE ISSUE, NOT FAT..
Eat NO processed food, absolutely none; you have no idea what you are eating.
Losing weight is not about caloric deficit though this can appear to work but is not sustainable, you need to change your body's set point, otherwise your body WILL adjust to get back to your previous weight regardless of CD.
Fasting; the way to drop weight, eat in a 8-6 hr window 2 meals, say 1pm and 7-8pm, then fast, nothing until next 1pm. If you feel craving a black coffee with MCT oil will dissipate hunger, it works, takes a bit of time to get used to it but weak in the head = weak in the body..
Forget calories; waste of time, learn about insulin resistance reversal instead.
We keep forgetting the nutritional requirements of the body.
The first requirement to be fulfilled is energy.
Protein, fats and carbohydrates all provide energy, but only protein is used for tissue repair and growth. An excess of protein can't be stored so we excrete it.
Carbohydrates are a quick 'instant' energy source, whereas fat is a long term energy provider. If you have an excess of carbohydrates, then there is no need for fat to be used, so fat can be stored in the body.
Too many carbohydrates can lead to excessive blood sugar levels, the risks of diabetes etc.
The rise of energy drinks, Red Bull, Monster etc has brought up a rise in diabetes cases. I have seen my daughter and mate told to avoid them by doctors as they have had to be hospitalised!
The first requirement to be fulfilled is energy.
Protein, fats and carbohydrates all provide energy, but only protein is used for tissue repair and growth. An excess of protein can't be stored so we excrete it.
Carbohydrates are a quick 'instant' energy source, whereas fat is a long term energy provider. If you have an excess of carbohydrates, then there is no need for fat to be used, so fat can be stored in the body.
Too many carbohydrates can lead to excessive blood sugar levels, the risks of diabetes etc.
The rise of energy drinks, Red Bull, Monster etc has brought up a rise in diabetes cases. I have seen my daughter and mate told to avoid them by doctors as they have had to be hospitalised!
In reply to Post #95
An espresso gives far more of a caffeine kick than red bull without all the other chemicals used, RB is awful stuff and should come with a health warning as cigarettes do..
An espresso gives far more of a caffeine kick than red bull without all the other chemicals used, RB is awful stuff and should come with a health warning as cigarettes do..
In reply to Post #1
I am in the same position weight wise and am also Type 1 diabetic
My doc suggested the low sugar and no carb diet by Michael Moseley
I have been on it since Jan and list nearly 2 stone 👍
It's basically no bread,pasta rice or processed food
Once you get into it it's a doddle you can still have fry ups 👍😜I do train martial arts training twice a week as well which
Helps
I am in the same position weight wise and am also Type 1 diabetic
My doc suggested the low sugar and no carb diet by Michael Moseley
I have been on it since Jan and list nearly 2 stone 👍
It's basically no bread,pasta rice or processed food
Once you get into it it's a doddle you can still have fry ups 👍😜I do train martial arts training twice a week as well which
Helps
In reply to Post #97
Brilliant, make it your way of life and you could reverse T1 diabetes.. It may require some fasting which you can learn more about.
Brilliant, make it your way of life and you could reverse T1 diabetes.. It may require some fasting which you can learn more about.
In reply to Post #98
Cheers
My average levels have dropped dramatically and so has my Hba1c
Cheers
My average levels have dropped dramatically and so has my Hba1c
In reply to Post #95
Not all carbohydrates give instant quick energy.
Two types: simple and complex.
It's the simple ones that give the quick energy. The complex ones give a slower but longer supply of energy.
The problem with most so called diets / meal plans that folks seem to do revolves round the elimination of one food group. What has been very fashionable is the Atkins diet over the years.
The body needs a balance of food groups to function at its best.
Seem many gym goers going overboard on protein and neglect other food types. They think it's key to growth and repair. The body can only absorb so much, and without a balance of carbohydrates the protein will not do its job very well at all.
Not all carbohydrates give instant quick energy.
Two types: simple and complex.
It's the simple ones that give the quick energy. The complex ones give a slower but longer supply of energy.
The problem with most so called diets / meal plans that folks seem to do revolves round the elimination of one food group. What has been very fashionable is the Atkins diet over the years.
The body needs a balance of food groups to function at its best.
Seem many gym goers going overboard on protein and neglect other food types. They think it's key to growth and repair. The body can only absorb so much, and without a balance of carbohydrates the protein will not do its job very well at all.
In reply to Post #98
You can't reverse type 1,it's type 2 that can be reversed
You can't reverse type 1,it's type 2 that can be reversed
In reply to Post #101
That's correct but with careful carb management and cutting out artificial sugars I have been able to reduce my daily routine insulin requirement by 2/3rds which helps weight loss 👍
That's correct but with careful carb management and cutting out artificial sugars I have been able to reduce my daily routine insulin requirement by 2/3rds which helps weight loss 👍
In reply to Post #94
are you just not rebranding Keto into some long winded "carbs are the devil" post?
are you just not rebranding Keto into some long winded "carbs are the devil" post?
In reply to Post #94
I think you are confusing yourself.
Calories are just a measurement of energy. That energy can come from protein, carbs, fats, whatever.
Your body needs energy to perform every major function. This energy can be measured in calories.
It really is as simple as consistently using more energy (calories) than you take in will cause you to lose body mass.
How you go about managing your intake of calories vs amount of energy used is another matter, and where people start to fall into obsessive tribalism!
I think you are confusing yourself.
Calories are just a measurement of energy. That energy can come from protein, carbs, fats, whatever.
Your body needs energy to perform every major function. This energy can be measured in calories.
It really is as simple as consistently using more energy (calories) than you take in will cause you to lose body mass.
How you go about managing your intake of calories vs amount of energy used is another matter, and where people start to fall into obsessive tribalism!
In reply to Post #103
No not at all, keto is certainly not for everyone and not everyone would need to go that far long term. Understanding the effects of lack of insulin control points directly to sugar and carbohydrates.
No not at all, keto is certainly not for everyone and not everyone would need to go that far long term. Understanding the effects of lack of insulin control points directly to sugar and carbohydrates.
In reply to Post #104
Regrettably it is not that simple, by only living in calorie deficit you can not alter your set point, and as soon as you lay off the exercise you will regain weight quickly and usually plus some more, even if you reduce exercise instead of stopping altogether. Your understanding is common and has been for many years, if you were to look into the long term effects of carbs and sugar you may realise that it is beneficial to reduce intake and let the body adapt to use stored fat and fats from food as the primary source of energy. There is plenty of information out there on this..
Regrettably it is not that simple, by only living in calorie deficit you can not alter your set point, and as soon as you lay off the exercise you will regain weight quickly and usually plus some more, even if you reduce exercise instead of stopping altogether. Your understanding is common and has been for many years, if you were to look into the long term effects of carbs and sugar you may realise that it is beneficial to reduce intake and let the body adapt to use stored fat and fats from food as the primary source of energy. There is plenty of information out there on this..
In reply to Post #106
It really is that simple, simple physiology.
By reducing sugar and carb intake are you not reducing calorie (energy) intake?
If you don't like the word calories how about joules? Both just units of energy.
If there is less energy taken in than expended out then the body needs to provide the surplus. It can't produce energy out of nothing.
You can dress up different methods of reducing the energy (calorie) intake and use buzz words like 'set points', and I agree that some methods are more effective. But, the simple physiology of energy in vs energy expended stands as the 'simple' fundamental rule.
It really is that simple, simple physiology.
By reducing sugar and carb intake are you not reducing calorie (energy) intake?
If you don't like the word calories how about joules? Both just units of energy.
If there is less energy taken in than expended out then the body needs to provide the surplus. It can't produce energy out of nothing.
You can dress up different methods of reducing the energy (calorie) intake and use buzz words like 'set points', and I agree that some methods are more effective. But, the simple physiology of energy in vs energy expended stands as the 'simple' fundamental rule.
In reply to Post #107
So are you claiming that there are zero health benefits to a low carb diet?
So are you claiming that there are zero health benefits to a low carb diet?