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Power Porter vs Nash power barrow (129 posts / 25,334 views)
Jslinn Jslinn
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Post #92 19 Mar 2021 06:49
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There's Facebook group that's discusses how to converting your barrow into a powered one.
Belch Belch
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Post #93 19 Mar 2021 11:18
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In reply to Post #88
. . .emailed Prestige yesterday. . .pitched to them with regards building a Power Porterlite (not all of us have large vans with ramps) and to be fair they responded immediately!

Apparently they are bringing out a mk2 Power Porter with a fatboy front tyre . . .they didn't mention release dates or RRP but its in the pipeline. . . on this basis may be worth waiting for as I'm sure you can strip a mk2 of the unnecessary metalwork to bring it closer to a Porterlite . . .?
Chuffy Chuffy
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Post #94 19 Mar 2021 11:50
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I have a PP and a Porterlite and use them in different situations. Yes the PP is a beast of a thing and I definitely wouldn't bother with it if I didn't have a ramp and a van to drive it in, tend to only use it when absolutely necessary. Having looked at the Nash one in a shop the build quality of the PP looks superior IMO.
Belch Belch
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Post #95 19 Mar 2021 12:27
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In reply to Post #94
. . .build does look better engineered but the Nash 'design' is so much better in terms of compactness and weight distribution. It looks like a normal barrow with an invisible power source - the Prestige design is still a little 'agricultural'. I am also sure that with testing a decent hub motor can equal an externally mounted & bulky wheel drive in terms of typical realworld use . . (not all of us need to climb Everest with our carp gear)

Saying that and to be fair to Prestige they do have the history - I for one (who am v tempted by the Power Metro) will now wait for the mk2 Prestige Power release . . .
g4fne g4fne
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Post #96 19 Mar 2021 13:21
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ive bought, used and sold all manner of barrows over last 20years .... Always kept a Porterlite though... It is the most versatile imo .... From days on the river to longer sessions, it does the lot. If they can manage a powered version without adding to much weight or bulk and keep the price sensible i would defo be interested
Belch Belch
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Post #97 19 Mar 2021 16:59
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In reply to Post #96
. . .ditto - my Porterlite is still going strong and is super versatile . . .

Problem is if you look at the standard Trax Metro (which has good reviews in general) its the same frame size as a Porterlite etc . . .so Nash have already recognised this with the Power Metro. . .

I mentioned this to Prestige - a Power-lite (tm) for £500 RRP would fly out of the door surely . . ?
christian
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Post #98 19 Mar 2021 20:53
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It's a few years ago but I bought a powered wheel of a company called TSM baits. They made them to fit a range of barrows, mine was a trakker. Long story short, it has been a great purchase, although onlt 12v it does the job I need, gets 3 days gear round a reasonably large lake no problem at all. Still on the original battery as well. It's not great on steep hills but for me that's not a problem.

It's a real pity the guy no longer trades but surely there is a gap in the market for someone to fill...I mean it's hardly rocket science.
woody71
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Post #99 19 Mar 2021 21:34
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In reply to Post #98
Id be surprised if someone doesn't start converting barrows again as on the facebook group jslinn mentions a lot of people are buying the powered wheel hubs and controllers that look very similar to the nash one in several power ratings and are buying them direct from china. It doesn't look hard to do
Belch Belch
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Post #100 19 Mar 2021 23:45
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In reply to Post #99
I'm a member of this group . . .nobody on it is particularly transparent though (everyone yaks about different purchases of controller units / 12v vs 24v / single / multiple batteries) so it can be a little confusing. Everyrone has different barrows tho - some need extension brackets for the front wheel that need to be engineered etc . . .

Most buy from Alibaba in China - the prices do go up and down dramatically so its a lottery as to what you order and when you press 'buy' -

Wheel Hub Motor (a la Nash - Prestige rate these as inferior tho if you look at their site) These vary from 24v 150W to 450W depending on power 'assumed' and weight of barrow etc
Control Unit (get this wrong and you wont be able to control speed or power)
Cables (with waterproof connectors)
Throttle control unit (you can buy the exact ones Nash use)
Batteries (either singular or in pairs)

Most seem to store the batteries and control unit in a carpy bucket or Korda Compact bag . . .others use DeWalt style toolcases - both are usually located in the barrows respective underbags so take up storage space. Advanced versions are fabricated metal and are welded onto the frame in a variety of places. . .there is a guy on there who will do all of this for you - for a price, you just need to order and deliver all the parts to him . . .

Overall purchase costs for the above parts are usually circa £300 . . .awaiting a quote from the above chap

I might buy a pukka power barrow first and then dick with my Porterlite . . .!
Jonnas
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Post #101 20 Mar 2021 09:45
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In reply to Post #100
I've converted my TFG barrow with one of the kits from China, was pretty simple to be honest. The most difficult bit was making a new wheel carrier but that is specific to my narrow, the CarpPorter barrows are much easier to fit the hub motor wheel to. A little bit of wiring and I was up and away.

I've used it for a couple of sessions and it is a game changer for me for the lake I'm fishing which has some challenging banks and paths, I'm not getting any younger! Only time will tell as to the reliability but so far I'm really impressed!
woody71
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Post #102 20 Mar 2021 09:54
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In reply to Post #101
Hi jon, i have seen the kits from china which comes with the controller but haven't seen the throttle/controller anywhere do you know where to order that from? i have an original nash evo that i was thinking of converting,

Belch if you dont mind would you let me know how you get on with yours?
mere--man mere--man
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Post #103 20 Mar 2021 11:00
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In reply to Post #93
That sounds up my street.. wanted to get the small nash power barrow but I've heard a few bad stories. How true they are I'm not sure but everyone I know who has the big power porters speak very highly of them. A porterlite or mk2 would suit me perfectly, I don't think I have enough kit to even half fill one of the big ones they do 😂
Jonnas
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Post #104 20 Mar 2021 12:06
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In reply to Post #102
They come with a twist throttle in the kit but apparently if you message the guy when you order, he will include a thumb throttle instead. I just bought one from Ebay for about a tenner...
Belch Belch
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Post #105 20 Mar 2021 13:04
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In reply to Post #103
. . .a lot of it is noise because a new player is in the market whereas previously Prestige had zero competition . . I spoke to Angling Direct (Fosters Bham) about Nash Power Barrow sales and they said they were good.

When asked about problems / returns over the last 12months they stated that they were no different from normal / any other product so would not have any problem recommending either Nash or indeed Prestige.

Whether that's sales speil I'm not sure, however retailers don't want returns (esp on a high value product like a power barrow) so it sounded genuine enough for me . . . .

Expensive bits of kit whatever way you look at them . .sometimes they go wrong, period.
BlankasorusRex BlankasorusRex
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Post #106 20 Mar 2021 14:54
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In reply to Post #105
I don't think it's exactly sweetness and light with Prestige either. I've been told by people in the trade that they regularly have carp porters turn up with bits missing and have to assemble a complete Porter from a couple of different ones and then wait for the missing bits to turn up. That's another problem. Apparently their after sales for the shops is absolute dog s@&t.

So I think you are probably right. I bet they are all no different to one another. It's all arriving in containers from China anyway. Even if it's assembled in the uk.

If a decent uk manufacturer built a quality barrow from uk parts in the uk I think they'd clean up. Covid has opened a few people's eyes to the tackle manufacturers I think.
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