In reply to Post #88
People love a moan mate, no one is asking them to buy it yet they still feel the need to have a good moan, I think they secretly want one but can't justify it, hence trying to put others off
People love a moan mate, no one is asking them to buy it yet they still feel the need to have a good moan, I think they secretly want one but can't justify it, hence trying to put others off
They look pretty good on paper, which is the only place most have seen them. But did I read it right... 250 sheets for a dpm bag???
In reply to Post #93
Yep but made by hand in the Uk maybe a little over priced but until people start using them we will not know how good they are. I for one don't have the money to take a punt on one at the moment but I will be keeping an eye out on the reviews and would get one at the end of the year if they are good.
Yep but made by hand in the Uk maybe a little over priced but until people start using them we will not know how good they are. I for one don't have the money to take a punt on one at the moment but I will be keeping an eye out on the reviews and would get one at the end of the year if they are good.
Interestingly .... this reminds me of when Shimano released their 5500 XTB's mini pits or ATTS launched their alarms . The "fan boys" loved them to begin with and shouted it from the rooftops. However, a few months or so later these same people were advertising them in the classifieds. A lesson learned for me as the reels in particular were nowhere near the hype !!. Here's hoping this product does live up to its fanfare .... as already said it does looks very good on paper
In reply to Post #95
But the tarts have always jumped on the latest thing then moved on as soon as the next thing comes along, the small ultegra were one of the first pits of that size though and proved very popular and dispite your dislike of them they still sell and spool klicker aside have generally been reliable. Anyway on the subject of the bag it will depend entirely on the user and the use they put it through, for me it's main point of interest is it's weight to warmth ratio and build quality, as I carry my kit most of the time every bit of weight saved is a big bonus but I wouldn't bother with this bag if I used a carp porter most of the time or indeed if I didn't hate mummy style bags. And my atts are still great and never missed a beat.
oh, most over rated product in recent times, baffin trappers, lol.
But the tarts have always jumped on the latest thing then moved on as soon as the next thing comes along, the small ultegra were one of the first pits of that size though and proved very popular and dispite your dislike of them they still sell and spool klicker aside have generally been reliable. Anyway on the subject of the bag it will depend entirely on the user and the use they put it through, for me it's main point of interest is it's weight to warmth ratio and build quality, as I carry my kit most of the time every bit of weight saved is a big bonus but I wouldn't bother with this bag if I used a carp porter most of the time or indeed if I didn't hate mummy style bags. And my atts are still great and never missed a beat.
oh, most over rated product in recent times, baffin trappers, lol.
In reply to Post #96
Ultegra's ONLY strong point is their size
In seriousness i have nothing against the tarts ... Once worked out the ones who arent afraid to tell it as it is, they make excellent field testers for the rest of us.
Ultegra's ONLY strong point is their size
In seriousness i have nothing against the tarts ... Once worked out the ones who arent afraid to tell it as it is, they make excellent field testers for the rest of us.
In reply to Post #89
All of your posts about this sleeping bag have a negative angle, which you then try to balance out by saying "it's good on paper" "I never said I don't like it" "I might buy one one day" blah blah blah. Maybe you're just a negative kind of person in life, I don't know, maybe you've bought one too many items of cheap Chinese tackle and are now wary of gambling your cash on new tackle? At the end of the day though, you haven't even seen a Techlite bag let alone used one so how can your opinion on whether you think it's worth the money be taken with any value?
Your repeated statement regarding the bag potentially being a limited run due to there being a fairly small market for such an item couldn't be more wrong. Thats the beauty of them being hand made in England, they can be manufactured in small or large quantities.......at very short notice......for as many years as Snugpak/Fortis like. This is just the opposite to anything made in China where tackle companies have to order X amount.....X amount of months in advance with a hefty investment involved, which in turn means a big financial risk if the item doesn't sell. For somebody who tries so hard to come across as knowing the ins and outs of the tackle trade you seem to have overlooked the benefits of using Great British industry.
My involvement with the Snugpak/Fortis sleeping bag goes as far as testing numerous different prototypes for just over a year until everyone involved was happy with the product and the final design was signed off. Do you think this happens with other sleeping bags on the market? There were many changes made to the bag during that time and the outcome is what you might one day actually see for yourself. When you do, I hope you see it as the quality item of tackle that it is.
All of your posts about this sleeping bag have a negative angle, which you then try to balance out by saying "it's good on paper" "I never said I don't like it" "I might buy one one day" blah blah blah. Maybe you're just a negative kind of person in life, I don't know, maybe you've bought one too many items of cheap Chinese tackle and are now wary of gambling your cash on new tackle? At the end of the day though, you haven't even seen a Techlite bag let alone used one so how can your opinion on whether you think it's worth the money be taken with any value?
Your repeated statement regarding the bag potentially being a limited run due to there being a fairly small market for such an item couldn't be more wrong. Thats the beauty of them being hand made in England, they can be manufactured in small or large quantities.......at very short notice......for as many years as Snugpak/Fortis like. This is just the opposite to anything made in China where tackle companies have to order X amount.....X amount of months in advance with a hefty investment involved, which in turn means a big financial risk if the item doesn't sell. For somebody who tries so hard to come across as knowing the ins and outs of the tackle trade you seem to have overlooked the benefits of using Great British industry.
My involvement with the Snugpak/Fortis sleeping bag goes as far as testing numerous different prototypes for just over a year until everyone involved was happy with the product and the final design was signed off. Do you think this happens with other sleeping bags on the market? There were many changes made to the bag during that time and the outcome is what you might one day actually see for yourself. When you do, I hope you see it as the quality item of tackle that it is.
In reply to Post #98
To be fair mate, his last post stated that the bags look good on paper. These forums are for feedback and I for one won't buy a significant product until it's been out for a few months,and the initial frenzy dies down.
I am a big snugpak fan though and will definitely have one if the feedback is good.
To be fair mate, his last post stated that the bags look good on paper. These forums are for feedback and I for one won't buy a significant product until it's been out for a few months,and the initial frenzy dies down.
I am a big snugpak fan though and will definitely have one if the feedback is good.
In reply to Post #98
Im guessing since you have been "bigging" this product up before it was even released that you have some connection/inside line/or whatever, with this collaboration between Snugpak/Fortis and you are obviously a little precious about it!
he sussed you though mate. got to give him that...
Stuart. im presuming this is you:
http://www.gofishing.co.uk/Angling-Times/Section/News--Catches/General-News/Five-carp-in-a-day-at-Savay/
Obviously your an experienced dedicated and skillful angler. Better to be remembered for articles like the one above than rucking with people on forums about sleeping bags.
Im guessing since you have been "bigging" this product up before it was even released that you have some connection/inside line/or whatever, with this collaboration between Snugpak/Fortis and you are obviously a little precious about it!
he sussed you though mate. got to give him that...
Stuart. im presuming this is you:
http://www.gofishing.co.uk/Angling-Times/Section/News--Catches/General-News/Five-carp-in-a-day-at-Savay/
Obviously your an experienced dedicated and skillful angler. Better to be remembered for articles like the one above than rucking with people on forums about sleeping bags.
In reply to Post #100
He didn't suss me because I'm not hiding. Right from the start I have replied to people on cemex who were asking about the sleeping bag, here, check the thread, and you'll also see that there was no "bigging" it up from me.
http://www.theanglersforum.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?210400-Fortis-If-you-read-this
He didn't suss me because I'm not hiding. Right from the start I have replied to people on cemex who were asking about the sleeping bag, here, check the thread, and you'll also see that there was no "bigging" it up from me.
http://www.theanglersforum.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?210400-Fortis-If-you-read-this
In reply to Post #98
I don't know why people can't just be upfront about their involvement with certain products/companies. It would give your comments more credibility from the outset rather than coming across as someone who just has a hardon for a product and isn't prepared to listen to someone else's opinion.
My stance? Having never seen the bag except in print, is its over priced. But then they're free to price it however they see fit as it's well known that some people will pay over the odds.
Edit: this isn't cemex
I don't know why people can't just be upfront about their involvement with certain products/companies. It would give your comments more credibility from the outset rather than coming across as someone who just has a hardon for a product and isn't prepared to listen to someone else's opinion.
My stance? Having never seen the bag except in print, is its over priced. But then they're free to price it however they see fit as it's well known that some people will pay over the odds.
Edit: this isn't cemex
In reply to Post #102
Stuart has always been up front and is on the Fortis website , I for one would rather listen/read the opinions of a product from those like him than those of someone that hasn't even seen the bag or a must have tart that has all the perceived best but never uses it.
Stuart has always been up front and is on the Fortis website , I for one would rather listen/read the opinions of a product from those like him than those of someone that hasn't even seen the bag or a must have tart that has all the perceived best but never uses it.
In reply to Post #103
well, we have to beg to differ then Goose. as i don't much value the opinion of any of those mentioned.
well, we have to beg to differ then Goose. as i don't much value the opinion of any of those mentioned.
In reply to Post #104
Those mentioned ? I've only mentioned the one, whilst I will read or listen to the opinions of many none of them will form my opinion, only if I need a product they may convince me to take a look but the product will speak for itself.
Those mentioned ? I've only mentioned the one, whilst I will read or listen to the opinions of many none of them will form my opinion, only if I need a product they may convince me to take a look but the product will speak for itself.
In reply to Post #102
Is that aimed at me? Because as I just said, I haven't bigged anything up on here or on cemex, take a look at the thread in the link and you'll see. I also haven't said anything about it on this forum either so where/when should I have disclosed my connection to Fortis?
Is that aimed at me? Because as I just said, I haven't bigged anything up on here or on cemex, take a look at the thread in the link and you'll see. I also haven't said anything about it on this forum either so where/when should I have disclosed my connection to Fortis?