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Super cold or Flu...... (1,759 posts / 63,321 views)
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #1018 30 Dec 2021 20:43
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I have edited it just for you
noj
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Social photographer... Post #1019 30 Dec 2021 21:29
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So we're pushing testing, but have no tests

And building more nightingales when we can't staff the hospitals as it is

Wonder if I did have the jab wether I'd end up with a bcg or insulin by accident
benyel29 benyel29
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Post #1020 30 Dec 2021 21:47
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To be fair the best part of the NHS has been the vaccine rollout. Amazing what it can achieve when you take out the layers and layers of management and everyone singing from The same hymn sheet

If only they could run the whole of the NHS like that, could probably payback everything spent on furlough in a couple of years if it was run properly

Re testing, I'm waiting for the daily cases to drop massively in the next week or so due to no one being able to do a test
JasonM JasonM
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Post #1021 30 Dec 2021 22:20
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Yep we've done a very good job on the vaccine rollout it's kept the deaths low.

We do more tests than many other countries, twice as many as comparably sized countries like France or Italy.

They'll just draft in the army for the nightingale hospitals and dispatch the unvaccinated
noj
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Social photographer... Post #1022 30 Dec 2021 22:30
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Yeah it's amazing what you can do when you allow cancer diagnoses, dementia and poor mental health to slip through the net. Pats on backs all round
Surprised they haven't got photos of soldiers building the nightingales again, when in reality I know of builders who made a killing working on them wink wink nudge nudge
The nhs is a **** show, good hard working people let down by management and rude bone idle tooth kissing night staff.
Shall we do a slow ironic clap on a Thursday to celebrate hospital covid transmission?
Get them proper masks and visors ffs
mal mal
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Post #1023 31 Dec 2021 00:21
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That last line. .

At least it's what they trained for eh?
Wayne Wayne
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Post #1024 31 Dec 2021 07:15
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Come on Mal.........I have tried to behave this year.......

is the end nigh according to some experts........

JasonM JasonM
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Post #1025 31 Dec 2021 08:13
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Sorry the uk before the pandemic had some of the worst rates for cancer diagnosis and survival. .in Europe.

Ultimately the NHS needs to be privatised if we want decent healthcare then we need to pay for it. Look at Israel fantastic system but it's not free.
You only have to look when the pandemic started we had one of the lowest rates for critical care beds.

Perhaps if we all payed for it we'd look after ourselves a bit better as well 😀👍🏼
Sussexcarper93
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Post #1026 31 Dec 2021 08:52
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Unfortunately, too many people live in the breadline/month to month for it to be viable, the second we go down that route, the vultures capitalise and we end up like America.

I have private healthcare which is unbelievable compared to the NHS, well worth the money for anyone who can afford it.
noj
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Social photographer... Post #1027 31 Dec 2021 09:21
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Sorry for what? I know our health service is a shambles at the best of times, if Europe's worst is getting worse it's surely worth a mention?
JasonM JasonM
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Post #1028 31 Dec 2021 09:44
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All health systems have undoubtedly suffered and some more than others.

If ‘we' you want a better one it has to be reformed as you said and I think we all agree it's broken.

If you look at other countries (Europe and Israel) some take a percentage or your salary, others it's an insurance you pay but it's there for all to access

Of course the challenge of privatisation is where the money goes...
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #1029 31 Dec 2021 10:03
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I thought when we pay National Insurance and tax that goes towards funding the NHS.We can't get to a point where healthcare is for only those that can afford it,that just wouldn't be right
Wayne Wayne
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Post #1030 31 Dec 2021 11:06
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No Tony, that's for cheese, wine and general piss ups.......
Publiclife Publiclife
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Post #1031 31 Dec 2021 11:08
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From what I'm lead to believe the french charge to see a doctor.......this is something we need to do. My old girl works at the quacks and she said it's the same people over and over who come in. The docs say that there is nothing wrong with them but they have no choice but to see them. Add to that that some people think it's acceptable to get things like paracetamol on prescription........ and let's not even mention the people who go to A&E for nothing more than a scratch or sometimes even a cold!
The problem with our country is no one has the balls to stand up and actually call out people who take the p#ss. We have so many do-gooders who will shout some form of discrimination if we went down that route, however the do-gooders always seem to forget about the people who are being effected by our services being hampered by said p#ss takers.
Unfortunately our politics are just one big game to get votes, because of this real change will never happen.

I pay for my family (missis and two little girls) to have private health care which is currently £110 a month but due to my job and current back issues it would be £250+ a month to put me on it so I don't have it. Once I get my mortgage fully paid (this coming year I hope) I will be put on it as well. I will sleep better once I know I have it.
RKB
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Post #1032 31 Dec 2021 11:20
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The NHS doesn't need to be privatised, it needs to be funded properly. Long term, year on year average funding increases are at around 4%, whereas the last 10 years under Tory rule it has been closer to 1.5%. That "missing" 2.5% would make a significant difference.
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