In reply to Post #70
Fen Drayton the same, 90+ acres, v low stock and its getting hit.
Fen Drayton the same, 90+ acres, v low stock and its getting hit.
In reply to Post #77
75 acres mate. Yeah, and it's been getting done. They're coming out of the river, through Fen and then into the reserves.
75 acres mate. Yeah, and it's been getting done. They're coming out of the river, through Fen and then into the reserves.
In reply to Post #78
Perfect scenario for a gun permit
Perfect scenario for a gun permit
Question. How many other fish have been lost from this complex to confirmed otter predation in the last year? I can't find mention of problems on the website. Was this an old fish nearing the end of its life, weak, slow and vulnerable? All the fish we fish for are going to die one way or the other and "wild" creatures rarely die in bed surrounded by loving family. Perhaps if we develop a more realistic perspective, stop giving fish daft names and go fishing for fish, not anthropomorphic totems to stick on social media we can get rid of the hysteria.
In reply to Post #80
Don't know about St Ives and how many fish they've lost.
I can only hazard a guess and say that the big fish are slower moving which makes them easier targets for these rats.
It's all well and good saying they all things die, sure, we all know that, the difference being as the numbers increase of these things, the more fish that'll be lost, to the point there will be no fish left - obviously a long way off of that right now. Wonder how you'll react when you see one of your places fish with its face ripped off and guts all hanging out.
Speaking to anglers on the bank fishing places like Fen and Ferry, there is a lot of anger out there. A world away from idealists on the internet...
Don't know about St Ives and how many fish they've lost.
I can only hazard a guess and say that the big fish are slower moving which makes them easier targets for these rats.
It's all well and good saying they all things die, sure, we all know that, the difference being as the numbers increase of these things, the more fish that'll be lost, to the point there will be no fish left - obviously a long way off of that right now. Wonder how you'll react when you see one of your places fish with its face ripped off and guts all hanging out.
Speaking to anglers on the bank fishing places like Fen and Ferry, there is a lot of anger out there. A world away from idealists on the internet...
In reply to Post #81
Might as well just kill them all now
Might as well just kill them all now
In reply to Post #80
Anthropomorphic totems to stick on social media? Guys have been naming big fish since the 50s. Its part of the very fabric of big carp angling.
Anthropomorphic totems to stick on social media? Guys have been naming big fish since the 50s. Its part of the very fabric of big carp angling.
In reply to Post #81
So, the question still remains. How many fish has the St Ives complex lost to confirmed otter predation in the last year. This is a popular, professionally run commercial fishery with competent full time bailiffs, so, how many?
Hazarding guesses, passing on gossip and fuelling rumours is not helpful.
So, the question still remains. How many fish has the St Ives complex lost to confirmed otter predation in the last year. This is a popular, professionally run commercial fishery with competent full time bailiffs, so, how many?
Hazarding guesses, passing on gossip and fuelling rumours is not helpful.
In reply to Post #83
Certainly there have been some famous fish but I wouldn't describe the naming of fish as "part of the very fabric" of carp angling. A handful of large famous fish is one thing, every lake having a list of names, A teams, B teams and all the rest of the trivial sub culture that modern carping seems to encourage is to me a negative and devalues the "very fabric" of coarse angling.
Certainly there have been some famous fish but I wouldn't describe the naming of fish as "part of the very fabric" of carp angling. A handful of large famous fish is one thing, every lake having a list of names, A teams, B teams and all the rest of the trivial sub culture that modern carping seems to encourage is to me a negative and devalues the "very fabric" of coarse angling.
In reply to Post #85
It is merely a continuation of the theme employed by those that started this whole game. We may not like it but lets face it, one generation creates the scene that the next take part in. Its very easy to blame the youth of today but they can't help when they were born.
Totally off topic, apologies.
It is merely a continuation of the theme employed by those that started this whole game. We may not like it but lets face it, one generation creates the scene that the next take part in. Its very easy to blame the youth of today but they can't help when they were born.
Totally off topic, apologies.
In reply to Post #84
Why don't you phone Gordy up and ask him about the numbers? At least you'll get the info from the horse's mouth so to.spesk 👍
Why don't you phone Gordy up and ask him about the numbers? At least you'll get the info from the horse's mouth so to.spesk 👍
In reply to Post #87
3 this year. That's it. nothing as far as I know last season. Saw them but they aren't doing as much damage as you would think touch wood. not found or seen any victims on longreach and I'm here every week..
3 this year. That's it. nothing as far as I know last season. Saw them but they aren't doing as much damage as you would think touch wood. not found or seen any victims on longreach and I'm here every week..
In reply to Post #88
Is that on the entire complex?
Is that on the entire complex?
In reply to Post #89
Dunno it's a big place and only really been reach/meadow/shallow side. Don't hear of much being found and people talk
Dunno it's a big place and only really been reach/meadow/shallow side. Don't hear of much being found and people talk
In reply to Post #87
I don't think I need to. The website and reports from a regular angler who is on site every week is enough. Five times that many fish on a site that big, over 2 years is nothing.
Predators rip the faces off their prey and spill their guts and eat them alive, its what they have been doing for hundreds of millions of years. Why should it bother me. I could kill, pluck, skin, draw and truss rabbits, hares, wildfowl and poultry by the time I was 10. I reckon I could still skin a rabbit in under a minute I've done that many.
Put a fox in a pen of lambs or a poultry house and it will cause carnage. Put an otter in a lake grossly overstocked with fat, slow, oversized and over fed carp and the same will happen.
It seems we want intensively farmed and managed commercial fisheries and syndicates so it is our responsibility to fence and protect them. This is not a wild environment.
Much of modern carp fishing lost its link to the natural environment decades ago, and carp fisheries are increasingly fished by similarly disconnected people. Sad but true
I don't think I need to. The website and reports from a regular angler who is on site every week is enough. Five times that many fish on a site that big, over 2 years is nothing.
Predators rip the faces off their prey and spill their guts and eat them alive, its what they have been doing for hundreds of millions of years. Why should it bother me. I could kill, pluck, skin, draw and truss rabbits, hares, wildfowl and poultry by the time I was 10. I reckon I could still skin a rabbit in under a minute I've done that many.
Put a fox in a pen of lambs or a poultry house and it will cause carnage. Put an otter in a lake grossly overstocked with fat, slow, oversized and over fed carp and the same will happen.
It seems we want intensively farmed and managed commercial fisheries and syndicates so it is our responsibility to fence and protect them. This is not a wild environment.
Much of modern carp fishing lost its link to the natural environment decades ago, and carp fisheries are increasingly fished by similarly disconnected people. Sad but true