In reply to Post #61
What, someone sensible would have bought it and not filled it full of carp
And who in their right mind would have spent the fortune it cost to buy it and left it as it was selling 8 tickets a year? This was just never going to happen.
What, someone sensible would have bought it and not filled it full of carp
And who in their right mind would have spent the fortune it cost to buy it and left it as it was selling 8 tickets a year? This was just never going to happen.
In reply to Post #62
Who told you they were selling 8 tickets a year, I couldn't even get on the waiting list when I tried.
50 tickets a year, a grand a piece = 50k return on just one of the waters, that being Wraysbury. Was it a million or something the buy all of them, maybe I'm well out on that figure. All the same, *they* are welcome to it.
Who told you they were selling 8 tickets a year, I couldn't even get on the waiting list when I tried.
50 tickets a year, a grand a piece = 50k return on just one of the waters, that being Wraysbury. Was it a million or something the buy all of them, maybe I'm well out on that figure. All the same, *they* are welcome to it.
In reply to Post #63
50k return? Lol. What about the cost of the fencing they put up around the whole complex? Let's face it, it needed it for the car crime as well as the otters. Another few hundred k I bet. It simply wasn't feasible to purchase it and leave it as it was.
50k return? Lol. What about the cost of the fencing they put up around the whole complex? Let's face it, it needed it for the car crime as well as the otters. Another few hundred k I bet. It simply wasn't feasible to purchase it and leave it as it was.
In reply to Post #61
Cemex didn't pull out of the UK.
I'm starting to think you can't be taken seriously in this conversation as you clearly don't know anything about the running and financing of fisheries or have a realistic expectation of what they need to do to work.
Cemex didn't pull out of the UK.
I'm starting to think you can't be taken seriously in this conversation as you clearly don't know anything about the running and financing of fisheries or have a realistic expectation of what they need to do to work.
In reply to Post #64
Exactly right Ian. Romance doesn't cover the costs.
Exactly right Ian. Romance doesn't cover the costs.
In reply to Post #65
Cemex didn't pull out of the UK
I've got to correct myself in respect of Cemex selling it's UK house building. I mistook Centex with Cemex, my mistake.
Take Lea Valley fisheries for example as it's a very similar like for like example. Lea Valley sustained their waters for years and years charging a very nominal fee. The only differences between the two is that other users other than anglers shared the facilities on some of their waters and Lea Valley waters were never fenced off.
Maybe you could argue that the fishes side of Lea Valley didn't keep the whole thing afloat. If the Lea Valley had never bothered to upkeep their waters, never put jetties etc in, I'm sure they would still have bought in a profit from angling.
Cemex didn't pull out of the UK
I've got to correct myself in respect of Cemex selling it's UK house building. I mistook Centex with Cemex, my mistake.
Take Lea Valley fisheries for example as it's a very similar like for like example. Lea Valley sustained their waters for years and years charging a very nominal fee. The only differences between the two is that other users other than anglers shared the facilities on some of their waters and Lea Valley waters were never fenced off.
Maybe you could argue that the fishes side of Lea Valley didn't keep the whole thing afloat. If the Lea Valley had never bothered to upkeep their waters, never put jetties etc in, I'm sure they would still have bought in a profit from angling.
In reply to Post #67
And look at what is happening with the LV waters now...
Funny how every time you get up on your high horse with your lectures about how things used to be, you get called out. Contradicted by somebody who has genuine knowledge rather than that of a keyboard warrior trawling old cemex forum posts through google.
Might be best to stick to the bait boat aerial threads. About which, admittedly, you do appear to be well informed.
And look at what is happening with the LV waters now...
Funny how every time you get up on your high horse with your lectures about how things used to be, you get called out. Contradicted by somebody who has genuine knowledge rather than that of a keyboard warrior trawling old cemex forum posts through google.
Might be best to stick to the bait boat aerial threads. About which, admittedly, you do appear to be well informed.
I haven't lost the buzz since 96.
I also enjoy fishing
I also enjoy fishing
In reply to Post #67
You have absolutely no idea how business works, do you think someone is spending a million quid of their own money and not looking to recoup it and gain profit from it ASAP? If you threw a million at something, you'd want it back ASAP too. Whether you like it or not, wraysbury, silverwings and Blenheim were destined for landfill at one stage, they're still lakes and people are enjoying them.
That gold card is an incredible ticket now, yes it's expensive and a lot of people can't afford it but most people think nothing of spending £2k on a holiday once a year, the guys that can use the ticket, it's not bad value for what's on offer.
You have absolutely no idea how business works, do you think someone is spending a million quid of their own money and not looking to recoup it and gain profit from it ASAP? If you threw a million at something, you'd want it back ASAP too. Whether you like it or not, wraysbury, silverwings and Blenheim were destined for landfill at one stage, they're still lakes and people are enjoying them.
That gold card is an incredible ticket now, yes it's expensive and a lot of people can't afford it but most people think nothing of spending £2k on a holiday once a year, the guys that can use the ticket, it's not bad value for what's on offer.
In reply to Post #69
Who knows the exact reasons as to why LV fisheries have tendered out their waters, I do know that a component part was down to the policing of it during Covid. All that aside, you never even attempted to address my points of RK waters vs LV waters.
What are you on about with me trawling old Cemex posts, you're just making stuff up. Not even looked at one old Cemex post. Behave yourself.
Who knows the exact reasons as to why LV fisheries have tendered out their waters, I do know that a component part was down to the policing of it during Covid. All that aside, you never even attempted to address my points of RK waters vs LV waters.
What are you on about with me trawling old Cemex posts, you're just making stuff up. Not even looked at one old Cemex post. Behave yourself.
In reply to Post #71
Say what?
So I punt out an arbitrary figure and all of a sudden I've got no idea how businesses work, another one that needs to behave themselves.
So people don't just buy things for the sakes of buying things and are happy to have a *long-term* strategy of recouping their initial investment? RK Fisheries business model is their business model and can do as they please, this isn't the only business model that is adopted throughout businesses generally speaking, and before you go 'yesh but if you're not after getting max profit and recouping your investment immediately companies fail' or some such blah, not the case at all.
Say what?
So I punt out an arbitrary figure and all of a sudden I've got no idea how businesses work, another one that needs to behave themselves.
So people don't just buy things for the sakes of buying things and are happy to have a *long-term* strategy of recouping their initial investment? RK Fisheries business model is their business model and can do as they please, this isn't the only business model that is adopted throughout businesses generally speaking, and before you go 'yesh but if you're not after getting max profit and recouping your investment immediately companies fail' or some such blah, not the case at all.
In reply to Post #68
Thanks Toronto, appreciate the post 👍
It's all a long time ago and I'd be just guessing, when did Mary die, must have been quite some years before Cemex sold up? Could it have been that blokes had moved onto the likes of Sonning and elsewhere as there were a fair few fish that attracted blokes hunting records.
As for Wraysbury No:2, I thought they put a load of fish in that one recently? I did think of fishing it again but was put off, part of which was the planes as it wasn't that nice when I last fished it.
Thanks Toronto, appreciate the post 👍
It's all a long time ago and I'd be just guessing, when did Mary die, must have been quite some years before Cemex sold up? Could it have been that blokes had moved onto the likes of Sonning and elsewhere as there were a fair few fish that attracted blokes hunting records.
As for Wraysbury No:2, I thought they put a load of fish in that one recently? I did think of fishing it again but was put off, part of which was the planes as it wasn't that nice when I last fished it.
In reply to Post #73
RK Fisheries business model is their business model and can do as they please, this isn't the only business model that is adopted throughout businesses generally speaking
Google "business model" TeeCee.
The term literally refers to a company's plan for making a profit.
RK Fisheries business model is their business model and can do as they please, this isn't the only business model that is adopted throughout businesses generally speaking
Google "business model" TeeCee.
The term literally refers to a company's plan for making a profit.
In reply to Post #75
Stop being pedantic. You know what I mean.
Stop being pedantic. You know what I mean.
In reply to Post #76
Unfortunately, there's very few people who are in the position to do what you're suggesting though, dump x amount of millions on a fishery to let people fish it for the love of the sport, it's all very romantic but not realistic or sustainable. If I had a million quid just laying around, I sure as hell wouldn't be buying a fishery, I'd leverage the cash as a deposit and built a block of flats...
What we should be applauding is the fact that given the prime locations of some of the complexes recently sold (Cemex portfolio and Yateley west), the fact they're still able to be fished and not another runway or country park is admirable.
Touching on yateley west bought by Martin Gardner, what a fantastic job he has done.
Unfortunately, there's very few people who are in the position to do what you're suggesting though, dump x amount of millions on a fishery to let people fish it for the love of the sport, it's all very romantic but not realistic or sustainable. If I had a million quid just laying around, I sure as hell wouldn't be buying a fishery, I'd leverage the cash as a deposit and built a block of flats...
What we should be applauding is the fact that given the prime locations of some of the complexes recently sold (Cemex portfolio and Yateley west), the fact they're still able to be fished and not another runway or country park is admirable.
Touching on yateley west bought by Martin Gardner, what a fantastic job he has done.