In reply to Post #61
I was very sceptical when Nash brought out his Scope and Dwarf range of rods , I immediately thought it was a scam to get everyone to part with more cash.
However I admit now I was so very wrong, having started Carp fishing in the 90s I just took it as gospel that carp rods had to be at least 12 ft long, why I thought that I don't really know but I did.
For the last 3 seasons I've been using 9ft rods for all my fishing , I find them more accurate when casting and far easier to use in swims with overhanging trees. The lake I fish is only around 10 acres so can hit all spots easily with a 2oz lead. I'm totally sold on shorter rods and would only change when and if I change venues and I need long rods again.
I was very sceptical when Nash brought out his Scope and Dwarf range of rods , I immediately thought it was a scam to get everyone to part with more cash.
However I admit now I was so very wrong, having started Carp fishing in the 90s I just took it as gospel that carp rods had to be at least 12 ft long, why I thought that I don't really know but I did.
For the last 3 seasons I've been using 9ft rods for all my fishing , I find them more accurate when casting and far easier to use in swims with overhanging trees. The lake I fish is only around 10 acres so can hit all spots easily with a 2oz lead. I'm totally sold on shorter rods and would only change when and if I change venues and I need long rods again.
In reply to Post #62
I take it that none of the people using short rods ever have to apply side strain to keep a carp out of marginal snags? Surely a longer rod is a benefit then?
I take it that none of the people using short rods ever have to apply side strain to keep a carp out of marginal snags? Surely a longer rod is a benefit then?
In reply to Post #60
That's a matter of opinion. Because it's a good rod for some 1 else dose not mean it's good for everybody.
That's a matter of opinion. Because it's a good rod for some 1 else dose not mean it's good for everybody.
In reply to Post #61
Lol na, if you've got 13ft Rods and there's fish in another swim don't even bother moving, literally it is not worth it. Just stay where you are as you will have problems relocated my 😂😂😂😂🙈🙈
Are you for real mate?
Lol na, if you've got 13ft Rods and there's fish in another swim don't even bother moving, literally it is not worth it. Just stay where you are as you will have problems relocated my 😂😂😂😂🙈🙈
Are you for real mate?
In reply to Post #65
Read the whole thread. Someone said that having 9ft rods made it easier to move swims.
Read the whole thread. Someone said that having 9ft rods made it easier to move swims.
In reply to Post #66
So do we now look forward to the classified section being full of crap 12 and 13 footers for sale?
Sets of 3 x Hi S, aviators, R1's etc for under £100?
I reckon it's 25% usefulness 75% marketing bull****.
It will be interesting to see where we are 5 years down the road. Will everyone be using 9 foot rods or will there be a rush to ditch them and buy 'old skool' big rods.
So do we now look forward to the classified section being full of crap 12 and 13 footers for sale?
Sets of 3 x Hi S, aviators, R1's etc for under £100?
I reckon it's 25% usefulness 75% marketing bull****.
It will be interesting to see where we are 5 years down the road. Will everyone be using 9 foot rods or will there be a rush to ditch them and buy 'old skool' big rods.
In reply to Post #66
Oh dear, schooled again...
Oh dear, schooled again...
I started off with 10' glass rods back in the day, then progressed to 11' glass which i loved. Eventually i got a pair of newly introduced carbons in 11'. They were a revelation!
As longer range fishing was becomming more popular, i bought a pair of 12' carbons, even more of a revelation!
I've used 12' rods ever since, i did borrow a set of 13' Armalite's from a mate one week as a lot of people were starting to use 13'. They weren't for me though, i couldn't get on with them. Maybe the blanks weren't right for me etc but, tried other 13's since and not liked them.
So for many years i stuck with 12' until i got my Torrix TE 12' 6" which i loved from the off. I just think it's a mix of the action and the 12' 6" length that works so well. Other than the Torrix though, all my other rods are 12'. For me, that is an optimum length for a carp rod.
I have caught carp on much shorter rods including some little 6' jobs but, i think a lot of the feel and enjoyment is lost when playing fish on these type of rods?
A guy on a local lake uses 9', and too be fair, he gets good distance and has his share of fish on them, and loves them.
Not really for me though, unless stalking in tight spots.
Each to their own
As longer range fishing was becomming more popular, i bought a pair of 12' carbons, even more of a revelation!
I've used 12' rods ever since, i did borrow a set of 13' Armalite's from a mate one week as a lot of people were starting to use 13'. They weren't for me though, i couldn't get on with them. Maybe the blanks weren't right for me etc but, tried other 13's since and not liked them.
So for many years i stuck with 12' until i got my Torrix TE 12' 6" which i loved from the off. I just think it's a mix of the action and the 12' 6" length that works so well. Other than the Torrix though, all my other rods are 12'. For me, that is an optimum length for a carp rod.
I have caught carp on much shorter rods including some little 6' jobs but, i think a lot of the feel and enjoyment is lost when playing fish on these type of rods?
A guy on a local lake uses 9', and too be fair, he gets good distance and has his share of fish on them, and loves them.
Not really for me though, unless stalking in tight spots.
Each to their own
In reply to Post #65
Are you for reel mate?
I'll just correct that for you:
Are you for reel real mate?
Are you for reel mate?
I'll just correct that for you:
Are you for reel real mate?
In reply to Post #66
Somewhere on this thread someone still uses a barrow N'all. Kind of defeats the purpose of the mobile approach IMO, taking that amount of gear to warrant a barrow but hey, if it wasn't for the odd folk we wouldn't be able to point and titter....
Somewhere on this thread someone still uses a barrow N'all. Kind of defeats the purpose of the mobile approach IMO, taking that amount of gear to warrant a barrow but hey, if it wasn't for the odd folk we wouldn't be able to point and titter....
In reply to Post #69
Agree with much of what you have said
Like you, I've been around a long time and seen most of it in that time. I'm currently on 12.9's which I find suits me perfectly, having gone virtually the same route as you.
I also agree each to their own, enjoy your own fishing.
I do have some scepticism though about the thinking behind some of the stuff out there. Most of the 'new' stuff is just a re-hash of old ideas. MKIV's were 10' back in the 50's,
I can just see it in a few years time in the angling press
NEW RELEASE March 15th 2020
Just released this new rod from Kieth Dosh. Here is a press release from Kieth:
"We have released this rod which has been designed with input from our new consultant Joe ********. Joe has brought years of experience from his 56 other consultant roles with other companies. Here's what Joes has to say
"This is a totally new departure from modern trends of short rods as it's actually a 12 foot. We are also bringing out a 12' 6" version for special hard core carpy geezers. Both rods feature a special dickhead tip which makes casting ability far better than shorter rods. Obviously being longer than most rods currently they cost more due to the extra materials".
Kieth also revealed that there is to be a complete range of luggage including longer rod hold-alls to accommodate this new revolutionary rod range. It will be made from a new material called 'Slippery Fish'.
In a breathtaking new initiative Kieth has announced that in conjunction with Kieth Dosh Auto's Ltd that, due to the recent Government clampdown on diesel cars and the VW emissions scandal, they have bought up huge numbers of VW diesel Golf and Passat estates which will be offered at knock down prices to anglers who buy the new rods. These cars being estates fit the longer rods in perfectly. The whole range of vehicles, luggage and rods will bear the name "Grand Theft Auto" and will be endorsed by some virtually unknown Olympic athlete.
PRESS RELEASE June 16th 2020
Dennis Faircopguv has announced a new revolutionary range of tackle. Designed in conjunction with new consultant Joe ******** who bring the experience of working for 57 other companies, these rods make the use of new materials described as "breathtaking" by industry insiders. "We have ditched using carbon fibre in favour of fibre glass which is more flexible. These cast well and are built to make use of the new Scatterbait method". Joe said" We know from experience that 99% of anglers can't find a gravel patch a foot wide at 160 yards in weedy waters even with radio controlled boats, drones, camera and sat navy technology, let alone hit it with a cast from a rod, so we designed this rod with this in mind. With the revolutionary fibre glass technology, the flex of the rod ensues that no two cast hit the same spot so anglers fish a larger area. When pressed for details Joe said this area was around "a tennis court" sized area so anglers should bait up an area like this to maximise their potential catch rate. This method has also been endorse by Zenon Headlights and his company Mainroad Baits. The new range of rods would be 11 foot and come in test curves starting at 1.5 going up to 2.5. A new range of luggage will be available as as Dennis stated " no one want to walk around with a rod hold-all with the top foot flapping around like the current 12 foot ones. They will also sell a beefed up 12 foot version spot rod. This will come with a hacksaw to saw the top foot off to make the perfect 'custom' spot rod.
Dennis also confirmed that this range of tackle would be endorsed by international rap Star Honey B.
Dennis took this opportunity to denie that a recent trip to India had nothing to do with looking for large numbers of Austin A40's or Morris Minors.
PRESS RELEASE June 30th 2020
Cash Controllers launch their own range of tackle.
Greg Shylock general manager said today that due to a huge upsurge in people buying cheap carp rods they are rebadging cheap rods as their own and selling them off at 'competitive' prices. Greg said "We have seen a 100% upsurge in people buying Badger and Dragon carp rods. We are now rebadging these best sellers as our own brand". It seems to be the case that anglers who want rods in 12 to 13 foot lengths are not happy at paying 2 grand a rod so are turning to the Cash Controllers brand which can be had for around £400 per rod. Greg said the current slump in productivity in China due to workers driving around in huge diesel 4x4's dumped on the market made the situation worse, which was a bonus for Cash Controllers and they intended to make the most of it whilst it lasted. Greg also confirmed that local 'personality' WasteofSpace Wayne who was clocked doing a sub nine second 100 meters from Greenland supermarket when chased by security was being lined up to endorse their range.
PRES SNIPPET.
An article from from the Hull Advertiser and Free Ads contained the following snippet:
"Rod Rabbithutch has file a case to sue Dennis Faircopguv for stealing his ideas. Sources close to the case said it was "something to do with tennis courts".
'As the chorus from the song 'Where have all the flowers gone?'......."Oh when will they ever learn, when will they learn"
Agree with much of what you have said
Like you, I've been around a long time and seen most of it in that time. I'm currently on 12.9's which I find suits me perfectly, having gone virtually the same route as you.
I also agree each to their own, enjoy your own fishing.
I do have some scepticism though about the thinking behind some of the stuff out there. Most of the 'new' stuff is just a re-hash of old ideas. MKIV's were 10' back in the 50's,
I can just see it in a few years time in the angling press
NEW RELEASE March 15th 2020
Just released this new rod from Kieth Dosh. Here is a press release from Kieth:
"We have released this rod which has been designed with input from our new consultant Joe ********. Joe has brought years of experience from his 56 other consultant roles with other companies. Here's what Joes has to say
"This is a totally new departure from modern trends of short rods as it's actually a 12 foot. We are also bringing out a 12' 6" version for special hard core carpy geezers. Both rods feature a special dickhead tip which makes casting ability far better than shorter rods. Obviously being longer than most rods currently they cost more due to the extra materials".
Kieth also revealed that there is to be a complete range of luggage including longer rod hold-alls to accommodate this new revolutionary rod range. It will be made from a new material called 'Slippery Fish'.
In a breathtaking new initiative Kieth has announced that in conjunction with Kieth Dosh Auto's Ltd that, due to the recent Government clampdown on diesel cars and the VW emissions scandal, they have bought up huge numbers of VW diesel Golf and Passat estates which will be offered at knock down prices to anglers who buy the new rods. These cars being estates fit the longer rods in perfectly. The whole range of vehicles, luggage and rods will bear the name "Grand Theft Auto" and will be endorsed by some virtually unknown Olympic athlete.
PRESS RELEASE June 16th 2020
Dennis Faircopguv has announced a new revolutionary range of tackle. Designed in conjunction with new consultant Joe ******** who bring the experience of working for 57 other companies, these rods make the use of new materials described as "breathtaking" by industry insiders. "We have ditched using carbon fibre in favour of fibre glass which is more flexible. These cast well and are built to make use of the new Scatterbait method". Joe said" We know from experience that 99% of anglers can't find a gravel patch a foot wide at 160 yards in weedy waters even with radio controlled boats, drones, camera and sat navy technology, let alone hit it with a cast from a rod, so we designed this rod with this in mind. With the revolutionary fibre glass technology, the flex of the rod ensues that no two cast hit the same spot so anglers fish a larger area. When pressed for details Joe said this area was around "a tennis court" sized area so anglers should bait up an area like this to maximise their potential catch rate. This method has also been endorse by Zenon Headlights and his company Mainroad Baits. The new range of rods would be 11 foot and come in test curves starting at 1.5 going up to 2.5. A new range of luggage will be available as as Dennis stated " no one want to walk around with a rod hold-all with the top foot flapping around like the current 12 foot ones. They will also sell a beefed up 12 foot version spot rod. This will come with a hacksaw to saw the top foot off to make the perfect 'custom' spot rod.
Dennis also confirmed that this range of tackle would be endorsed by international rap Star Honey B.
Dennis took this opportunity to denie that a recent trip to India had nothing to do with looking for large numbers of Austin A40's or Morris Minors.
PRESS RELEASE June 30th 2020
Cash Controllers launch their own range of tackle.
Greg Shylock general manager said today that due to a huge upsurge in people buying cheap carp rods they are rebadging cheap rods as their own and selling them off at 'competitive' prices. Greg said "We have seen a 100% upsurge in people buying Badger and Dragon carp rods. We are now rebadging these best sellers as our own brand". It seems to be the case that anglers who want rods in 12 to 13 foot lengths are not happy at paying 2 grand a rod so are turning to the Cash Controllers brand which can be had for around £400 per rod. Greg said the current slump in productivity in China due to workers driving around in huge diesel 4x4's dumped on the market made the situation worse, which was a bonus for Cash Controllers and they intended to make the most of it whilst it lasted. Greg also confirmed that local 'personality' WasteofSpace Wayne who was clocked doing a sub nine second 100 meters from Greenland supermarket when chased by security was being lined up to endorse their range.
PRES SNIPPET.
An article from from the Hull Advertiser and Free Ads contained the following snippet:
"Rod Rabbithutch has file a case to sue Dennis Faircopguv for stealing his ideas. Sources close to the case said it was "something to do with tennis courts".
'As the chorus from the song 'Where have all the flowers gone?'......."Oh when will they ever learn, when will they learn"
In reply to Post #72
In reply to Post #68
Me? Not sure why people are replying to my post, I was just trying to point out that bradders post was meant as sarcasm personally I can move swims quite easily with 9,10, 11 or even 12ft rods. I draw the line at 13ft though. That's just daft & plain dangerous.
Me? Not sure why people are replying to my post, I was just trying to point out that bradders post was meant as sarcasm
personally I can move swims quite easily with 9,10, 11 or even 12ft rods. I draw the line at 13ft though. That's just daft & plain dangerous.
In reply to Post #68
Whoops
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In reply to Post #72
Did they ever offer tank aerials in 13' versions???
Did they ever offer tank aerials in 13' versions???