In reply to Post #45
He's got an awful lot to answer for has our Dave.
He's got an awful lot to answer for has our Dave.
It all revolves around money.
In reply to Post #47
doesnt everything?
they dont say its the route of all evil for nothing.
Lake owner doesnt want to pay out for professionals - saving money
Member does work for a free ticket - saving money
Member gets injured - wants to make money
Ambulance chasing lawyer - making money
Lake owner - losing money
its all about the ££££££££££££
imagine a world where it didnt exist. Whats the lyric from The Verve song "Try to make ends meet, your'e a slave to money, then you die" Pretty much sums up my life.
doesnt everything?
they dont say its the route of all evil for nothing.
Lake owner doesnt want to pay out for professionals - saving money
Member does work for a free ticket - saving money
Member gets injured - wants to make money
Ambulance chasing lawyer - making money
Lake owner - losing money
its all about the ££££££££££££
imagine a world where it didnt exist. Whats the lyric from The Verve song "Try to make ends meet, your'e a slave to money, then you die" Pretty much sums up my life.
In reply to Post #48
Couple of angling clubs around me have always has work parties, probably to save paying professionals and when they are charging what they are for year book to be fair I can see why
Work parties on private waters, nope, isn't that called been used as a mug? Unless there is a free ticket offer or something that benefits the angler for me
Couple of angling clubs around me have always has work parties, probably to save paying professionals and when they are charging what they are for year book to be fair I can see why
Work parties on private waters, nope, isn't that called been used as a mug? Unless there is a free ticket offer or something that benefits the angler for me
In reply to Post #49
I actually enjoy our work parties. I get to meet other members that I wouldn't necessarily see. But I guess I'm lucky as they are very well organised, risk assessed etc and any dangerous stuff is done by outside contractors. Most of the time is just basic swim maintenance and building fires etc. Each lake of the complexes has a dedicated water management member so all the work Is preplanned to be as easy as possible and all ppe is provided. To be honest even when they are physical they aren't a chore. Plus you get a say in what you want done to a point. As long as it's sensible the committee rarely say no. So you do get something back, maybe trees cut back to make a cast easier or perhaps a swim levelled out etc.
I actually enjoy our work parties. I get to meet other members that I wouldn't necessarily see. But I guess I'm lucky as they are very well organised, risk assessed etc and any dangerous stuff is done by outside contractors. Most of the time is just basic swim maintenance and building fires etc. Each lake of the complexes has a dedicated water management member so all the work Is preplanned to be as easy as possible and all ppe is provided. To be honest even when they are physical they aren't a chore. Plus you get a say in what you want done to a point. As long as it's sensible the committee rarely say no. So you do get something back, maybe trees cut back to make a cast easier or perhaps a swim levelled out etc.
In reply to Post #50
Got to admit there has been a lot of good work done on some of the waters I used to fish over the years and all voluntary labour, reed bed clearing, brilliant new platforms etc and it does make the angling better, to the point bankside management really is a necessity. To be fair I find it therapeutic pruning, I have created a lot of swims on some waters myself over the years and where I am fishing now I have been doing a bit of prep. Bought myself a carryall size silky saw earlier this year, what a weapon that is, highly rated
More overgrown the better for me though, make my own little swims, I loved reading about the Mere and how they were fishing it, that's my preferred style minus the boats, Wraysbury overgrown, all paradise for me
Got to admit there has been a lot of good work done on some of the waters I used to fish over the years and all voluntary labour, reed bed clearing, brilliant new platforms etc and it does make the angling better, to the point bankside management really is a necessity. To be fair I find it therapeutic pruning, I have created a lot of swims on some waters myself over the years and where I am fishing now I have been doing a bit of prep. Bought myself a carryall size silky saw earlier this year, what a weapon that is, highly rated
More overgrown the better for me though, make my own little swims, I loved reading about the Mere and how they were fishing it, that's my preferred style minus the boats, Wraysbury overgrown, all paradise for me
Im not far from Layfields, ive never fished it but heard bad reports of how its run and how busy it is.
I've on a estate lake syndicate, once a year we have a work party which is next week.
members bring there own tools, i normally bring down my quad and scythe to cut reeds.
There's 40 member on my syndicate and its a good way of seeing old faces.
My club water holds weekly work parties on a Thursday during closed season, by helping out with general tasks you get a £5 voucher to be used for the next years memberships, its only £50 a year.
I've on a estate lake syndicate, once a year we have a work party which is next week.
members bring there own tools, i normally bring down my quad and scythe to cut reeds.
There's 40 member on my syndicate and its a good way of seeing old faces.
My club water holds weekly work parties on a Thursday during closed season, by helping out with general tasks you get a £5 voucher to be used for the next years memberships, its only £50 a year.
We have employers liability insurance and have risked assessed all tasks which members have to sign the risk assessment. So I'm hoping we're covered.??
I wonder just how many lake owners have actually got Public Liability Insurance in force, let alone Employers Liability cover, which, you would require for any jobs being undertaken by members on your behalf?
Not that many i would wager?
Not that many i would wager?
In reply to Post #52
£5 voucher to be used for the next years memberships, it's only £50 a year.
Nice little gesture that
£5 voucher to be used for the next years memberships, it's only £50 a year.
Nice little gesture that
In reply to Post #55
Not the reason i do the parties as i wouldnt take the voucher id rather the club reinvests it but a lovely gesture for the old boys.
Not the reason i do the parties as i wouldnt take the voucher id rather the club reinvests it but a lovely gesture for the old boys.
In reply to Post #56
Similar to me, if I was doing it I would do it for the club for free. The clubs around me were the lifeblood of fishing for a long time and the ticket prices reflecting on where we are now for the variety of waters we're for virtually nothing!
However, private waters run as a business and charging a premium can ask for work parties is beyond me unless people really want to do it of course, their choice, I know I wouldn't!
I read a website of a certain water a while ago, to join would had to attend so many work parties to “get to know everybody” in other words some cheap labour
Similar to me, if I was doing it I would do it for the club for free. The clubs around me were the lifeblood of fishing for a long time and the ticket prices reflecting on where we are now for the variety of waters we're for virtually nothing!
However, private waters run as a business and charging a premium can ask for work parties is beyond me unless people really want to do it of course, their choice, I know I wouldn't!
I read a website of a certain water a while ago, to join would had to attend so many work parties to “get to know everybody” in other words some cheap labour
In reply to Post #57
Not all privately owned waters run at a worthwhile profit mate, mine certainly doesn't at the moment.
You could argue that asking members for help is a way of keeping the cost of membership down compared with using outside contractors.
IMO just another example of 'if you don't like it don't join'.
In fact over the years many of my members have asked if I could have work parties.
Not all privately owned waters run at a worthwhile profit mate, mine certainly doesn't at the moment.
You could argue that asking members for help is a way of keeping the cost of membership down compared with using outside contractors.
IMO just another example of 'if you don't like it don't join'.
In fact over the years many of my members have asked if I could have work parties.
I think the last work party I attended I moved a few twigs and branches about 30 yards, then stood around talking with the owner for about 3 hours afterwards.
In reply to Post #59
I'll have to keep my eye on you lol
I'll have to keep my eye on you lol