In reply to Post #48
The utter crap that comes out of peoples mouths on this forum is priceless. Dig after dig from people that really should know better. Do you know what lads, you keep on having a dig at anyone else who has something you do not as it just makes you all sound bitter.
The man who makes many of the things discussed on this forum is quietly watching and having a little smile at you lot. I won't let you ruin a good weekend again as I'm sure this thread will be locked like they all are nowadays. Because you can't do something yourselves doesn't it mean it can't be done. Joss get your delete button finger ready mate
The utter crap that comes out of peoples mouths on this forum is priceless. Dig after dig from people that really should know better. Do you know what lads, you keep on having a dig at anyone else who has something you do not as it just makes you all sound bitter.
The man who makes many of the things discussed on this forum is quietly watching and having a little smile at you lot. I won't let you ruin a good weekend again as I'm sure this thread will be locked like they all are nowadays. Because you can't do something yourselves doesn't it mean it can't be done. Joss get your delete button finger ready mate
In reply to Post #51
No ones mentioned you?
No ones mentioned you?
In reply to Post #37
You assume so many things laughing emoji what's that about?
I know full well what a tub of popups cost to produce I know how much my hourly rate is my point is as follows, I was making my own hookbaits 20 plus years ago had another spell during the lockdowns through extra time on my hands when we couldn't fish what I reminded myself is I prefer to spend my time fishing I can't be arsed anymore if someone makes hookbaits at 12 pound a tub or 24p a hookbait for fifty and I'm getting a return by fish on the bank do you honestly think I'm bothered paying someone for their time to make them and sell them I've got 4 tubs of Marks popups and half a dozen of Gavs because they put fish on the bank, I also know pidge well enough to know he's been around as long as God at this game.
By the way I charge 45 quid an hour for my time and have made a living out of my family business employing 15 people for thirty years I understand the cost of things I'm not some pot noodle, I think you come across awfully bitter with some of your responses, don't assume to much about someone an assumption is someone's best guess which is just that.
You assume so many things laughing emoji what's that about?
I know full well what a tub of popups cost to produce I know how much my hourly rate is my point is as follows, I was making my own hookbaits 20 plus years ago had another spell during the lockdowns through extra time on my hands when we couldn't fish what I reminded myself is I prefer to spend my time fishing I can't be arsed anymore if someone makes hookbaits at 12 pound a tub or 24p a hookbait for fifty and I'm getting a return by fish on the bank do you honestly think I'm bothered paying someone for their time to make them and sell them I've got 4 tubs of Marks popups and half a dozen of Gavs because they put fish on the bank, I also know pidge well enough to know he's been around as long as God at this game.
By the way I charge 45 quid an hour for my time and have made a living out of my family business employing 15 people for thirty years I understand the cost of things I'm not some pot noodle, I think you come across awfully bitter with some of your responses, don't assume to much about someone an assumption is someone's best guess which is just that.
In reply to Post #51
I've just read through this thread and I can't see anyone being rude about your baits.? In fact all I can see is people calling out companies who are selling basic pop up mixes for £12 a pot. Yours, Specialised and another company I'm very familiar with are clearly not just Polaris and a flavour. I can't see anywhere that people are saying you are turning people over. In fact just the metal tins you use justify a higher price than a lot of others.
I've just read through this thread and I can't see anyone being rude about your baits.? In fact all I can see is people calling out companies who are selling basic pop up mixes for £12 a pot. Yours, Specialised and another company I'm very familiar with are clearly not just Polaris and a flavour. I can't see anywhere that people are saying you are turning people over. In fact just the metal tins you use justify a higher price than a lot of others.
In reply to Post #53
Again, you're and gav are the only ones mentioning him here.
You may very well charge 45 quid an hour but nobody in the bait trade charges tge at and it's hardly relevant as I was talking about it being a leisure activity to self roll.
Even at 45 quid an hour if you roll 3/5kg of perfect pop ups an hour you're looking at 200 quid minimum in sales from each kilo so if in 600 quid of business 45 of it was labour it's still be sweet.
I honestly don't have any bitterness to gav we sell different products to different people lol. And I'll not say anymore of it as I agreed not to to someone I respect.
Typical though you lot come in and turn it to me doing something bad for having an opinion lol have a day off.
Again, you're and gav are the only ones mentioning him here.
You may very well charge 45 quid an hour but nobody in the bait trade charges tge at and it's hardly relevant as I was talking about it being a leisure activity to self roll.
Even at 45 quid an hour if you roll 3/5kg of perfect pop ups an hour you're looking at 200 quid minimum in sales from each kilo so if in 600 quid of business 45 of it was labour it's still be sweet.
I honestly don't have any bitterness to gav we sell different products to different people lol. And I'll not say anymore of it as I agreed not to to someone I respect.
Typical though you lot come in and turn it to me doing something bad for having an opinion lol have a day off.
In reply to Post #44
Don't get drawn into another argument,he really is not worth your time.Gav and yourself produce excellent baits and the catch pictures prove this time and time again
Don't get drawn into another argument,he really is not worth your time.Gav and yourself produce excellent baits and the catch pictures prove this time and time again
In reply to Post #55
I have no problem with opinions Mozzi but you started your reply to me with laughing emojis and a comment if you knew just how much a tub of pop ups were to make, Like I said your making assumptions about what I know, people selling hookbaits for bait for a living is entirely up to them what they charge if its a good product people will pay the price they're asking I relate it to being a good product as in fish on the bank is how I value it. MY time as well as yours and others is what is relevant I was using mine as an example if I could be arsed anymore rolling them then it all would be irrelevant as I can't be bothered, I see 24p for a fish on the bank as irrelevant, like you say there are a 1001 companies making inferior products/bait at inflated rates but those who have been around long enough realise that, have a good evening as well as everyone else I'm getting my kit together for a few days on the bank.
I have no problem with opinions Mozzi but you started your reply to me with laughing emojis and a comment if you knew just how much a tub of pop ups were to make, Like I said your making assumptions about what I know, people selling hookbaits for bait for a living is entirely up to them what they charge if its a good product people will pay the price they're asking I relate it to being a good product as in fish on the bank is how I value it. MY time as well as yours and others is what is relevant I was using mine as an example if I could be arsed anymore rolling them then it all would be irrelevant as I can't be bothered, I see 24p for a fish on the bank as irrelevant, like you say there are a 1001 companies making inferior products/bait at inflated rates but those who have been around long enough realise that, have a good evening as well as everyone else I'm getting my kit together for a few days on the bank.
Instead of bickering and slagging people /baits off. Let's stick to the name of the post. **** me my kids argue less
In reply to Post #58
Do they make bait though
Do they make bait though
In reply to Post #58
Nutters.....all of them!
Mark makes great hookbaits, Gav makes great hook baits, UB used to make great hookbaits.......all this nonsense about price is no different to anything people buy.......if there is a market you exploit it with a great product......if your product is **** then I'm sure people will vote with their feet......
What I find funny is How the **** people can argue about bait .........it's fish food......can we not argue about face nappies and the Ukraine instead......
Nutters.....all of them!
Mark makes great hookbaits, Gav makes great hook baits, UB used to make great hookbaits.......all this nonsense about price is no different to anything people buy.......if there is a market you exploit it with a great product......if your product is **** then I'm sure people will vote with their feet......
What I find funny is How the **** people can argue about bait .........it's fish food......can we not argue about face nappies and the Ukraine instead......
In reply to Post #58
I'm a busy chap and only get a quick look at this forum due to work, family and fishing. I like looking at the bait section as I have an interest in it, always have done.
This is all getting rather tedious though, with the sniping and people constantly announcing their retirement from the forum. It's boring and makes it hard to read the forum. We are all fellow anglers, very similar to each other in many ways, let's cut this crap.
I'm a busy chap and only get a quick look at this forum due to work, family and fishing. I like looking at the bait section as I have an interest in it, always have done.
This is all getting rather tedious though, with the sniping and people constantly announcing their retirement from the forum. It's boring and makes it hard to read the forum. We are all fellow anglers, very similar to each other in many ways, let's cut this crap.
In reply to Post #35
Read Marks post after yours, nail on head
I don't think there is a decent carp angler around who wouldn't pay for quality bait. The difference is, the market will get saturated with inferior baits and all of a sudden, all pop ups are £15 a pot, couple of flavours and a touch of sweetener, Kerching
Couple the latter with a bait maker trying to put a quality food source together and the angler refuses to pay more than a fiver a KG for (because bait is so important to them) not even imaginable!!! Never mind the effort involved ffs. Think I would stick to pop ups anyday!
Bait is no longer for catching fish, it's for catching mugs £
One single thing that matters with bait, results, the rest speaks for itself as they say
Read Marks post after yours, nail on head
I don't think there is a decent carp angler around who wouldn't pay for quality bait. The difference is, the market will get saturated with inferior baits and all of a sudden, all pop ups are £15 a pot, couple of flavours and a touch of sweetener, Kerching
Couple the latter with a bait maker trying to put a quality food source together and the angler refuses to pay more than a fiver a KG for (because bait is so important to them) not even imaginable!!! Never mind the effort involved ffs. Think I would stick to pop ups anyday!
Bait is no longer for catching fish, it's for catching mugs £
One single thing that matters with bait, results, the rest speaks for itself as they say
In reply to Post #57
I'm more than aware of the ceiling cost of a pot of hookbaits.
I'm more than aware of the ceiling cost of a pot of hookbaits.
In reply to Post #61
Well said
Well said
For many years I got my hookbaits f.o.c. Nowadays, I am happy to buy them, but I am a very discerning fellow. I use only three companies and their stuff does me proud.