Ivan marks (match)
Jack hargreaves
Rod hutchinson(carp)
All 3 had one thing that stood them out from the rest of the greats....charisma
Jack hargreaves
Rod hutchinson(carp)
All 3 had one thing that stood them out from the rest of the greats....charisma
In reply to Post #46
Couldn't argue with those 3 Micky
Ivan taught Kevin how to win bream matches with the "10 bite approach".
All great anglers.
Couldn't argue with those 3 Micky
Ivan taught Kevin how to win bream matches with the "10 bite approach".
All great anglers.
In reply to Post #1
In my lifetime
All species - Matt Hayes
Carp -Hutchie closely followed by
Richie Mac
Match - Ivan Marks
In my lifetime
All species - Matt Hayes
Carp -Hutchie closely followed by
Richie Mac
Match - Ivan Marks
Kevin Ashurst is the son of the very famous Benny Ashurst,the book I have in front of me now ,called Match fishing with Benny Ashurst first published by Ernest Benn Ltd, 1968 ..
It details all the matches Benny won before the 2nd world war and after,an incredible amount of wins,this is where Kevin Ashurst learnt his trade ,from his father,spending many hours on Fir tree flash at Leigh, practising all manner of techniques, from breeding squats,collecting bloodworm,and developing pinkies,Benny was at the forefront of all this..
According to my much read book,Kevin acknowledges everything to his father Benny,and having read that book a,lot since childhood ,I can see why ..
I can also see why so many Northern matchmen were experts on canals when only a few ozs was enough to win ,or win a section..
I found this knowledge transferable, as its still relevant today..in many ways,the tackle has improved obviously..
So one of the ALL..Time greats as far as speed angling ,match fishing is Benny Ashurst..
It details all the matches Benny won before the 2nd world war and after,an incredible amount of wins,this is where Kevin Ashurst learnt his trade ,from his father,spending many hours on Fir tree flash at Leigh, practising all manner of techniques, from breeding squats,collecting bloodworm,and developing pinkies,Benny was at the forefront of all this..
According to my much read book,Kevin acknowledges everything to his father Benny,and having read that book a,lot since childhood ,I can see why ..
I can also see why so many Northern matchmen were experts on canals when only a few ozs was enough to win ,or win a section..
I found this knowledge transferable, as its still relevant today..in many ways,the tackle has improved obviously..
So one of the ALL..Time greats as far as speed angling ,match fishing is Benny Ashurst..
In reply to Post #47
I met ivan when in my teens at sandown race course in the 80s at a fishing show. He gave this cocky london teenager (me)a real lesson in acurate casting and all in a humourous and informative way much to the delight of my carp fishing mates. Not one of my casting attempts at trying to get a lead on a line into 2 washing bowls placed at 40 and 60 yards was sucessful. My attempts were all failed attempts... ivan got his rod... put the lead under his foot.. compressed it and both times as he released his foot the lead landed in the 2 bowls... i kid you not!!! This gracious legend then explained how he was so accurate and that a carp angler may cast a handful of times in 24 hours whereas he would cast some 500 times in a match. The man was great entainment and at the very top of his game. One of the teams he fished with was 'leicester likely lads'. A great encounter that i will never forget.
I met ivan when in my teens at sandown race course in the 80s at a fishing show. He gave this cocky london teenager (me)a real lesson in acurate casting and all in a humourous and informative way much to the delight of my carp fishing mates. Not one of my casting attempts at trying to get a lead on a line into 2 washing bowls placed at 40 and 60 yards was sucessful. My attempts were all failed attempts... ivan got his rod... put the lead under his foot.. compressed it and both times as he released his foot the lead landed in the 2 bowls... i kid you not!!! This gracious legend then explained how he was so accurate and that a carp angler may cast a handful of times in 24 hours whereas he would cast some 500 times in a match. The man was great entainment and at the very top of his game. One of the teams he fished with was 'leicester likely lads'. A great encounter that i will never forget.
In reply to Post #50
That was brilliant ,I can remember in back of my mind Marks and Marlow,I also remember Leicester likely lads ,I think they won nearly everything back in those times..
No one has mentioned Kenny Collings,Charlie Taylor and Paul 'Tommy 'Hilier..all good anglers..I used to get ALL my kit from KC Angling ,once a year ,long journey up country ,no tackleshop locally at all,so they all had time for me ...
That was brilliant ,I can remember in back of my mind Marks and Marlow,I also remember Leicester likely lads ,I think they won nearly everything back in those times..
No one has mentioned Kenny Collings,Charlie Taylor and Paul 'Tommy 'Hilier..all good anglers..I used to get ALL my kit from KC Angling ,once a year ,long journey up country ,no tackleshop locally at all,so they all had time for me ...
In reply to Post #51
Yes wandle...kenny colins i think was under Dorkings banner but may have moved up another level afterwards. I do remember stevie gardner fishing cranbury gardens kingston one winters day i watched him extract just over a pound of tiny roach but cant remember if he won it. I do remember walking and watching informing him of others catching or not as was the case...i guess i was 15/16 at the time. I also remember ray mumford legendary pole angler. Loved frank barlows musings in anglers mail to. Its such a shame the river match scene is all but dead in and around london area.... for me over stocked puddle match fishing just pales into insignifcence compared to the once thriving river and canal match fishing scene.
Yes wandle...kenny colins i think was under Dorkings banner but may have moved up another level afterwards. I do remember stevie gardner fishing cranbury gardens kingston one winters day i watched him extract just over a pound of tiny roach but cant remember if he won it. I do remember walking and watching informing him of others catching or not as was the case...i guess i was 15/16 at the time. I also remember ray mumford legendary pole angler. Loved frank barlows musings in anglers mail to. Its such a shame the river match scene is all but dead in and around london area.... for me over stocked puddle match fishing just pales into insignifcence compared to the once thriving river and canal match fishing scene.
In reply to Post #49
Another pupil of Ivan and Benny and great match angler in his own right was Billy Makin,.If you want character Billy has it in spades! Brought up on the same canals as the Ashursts and cut from the same cloth.
A mate goes to Thailand regularly whacking golf balls around and always goes for a session and catch up with Billy at his bar. He's also written a few amusing books Wandle.
#52 Ironically Micky it was Billy that opened up Makin Fisheries and is credited with the rise of the commercial fishery match scene and blueprint for most since.
Another pupil of Ivan and Benny and great match angler in his own right was Billy Makin,.If you want character Billy has it in spades! Brought up on the same canals as the Ashursts and cut from the same cloth.
A mate goes to Thailand regularly whacking golf balls around and always goes for a session and catch up with Billy at his bar. He's also written a few amusing books Wandle.
#52 Ironically Micky it was Billy that opened up Makin Fisheries and is credited with the rise of the commercial fishery match scene and blueprint for most since.
In reply to Post #52
Yep,and Ray Mumford ,always dressed smart ,suit n tie,made his own dappled floats,the neatest tidiest angler you'll ever meet ,Ray was instigator of modern role pole fishing...
My father ,uncles all friends with Gerry Doughty, a hardware shop.then,but turned into Gerrys of Wimbledon..
My self ,a registered PHU pupil ,back in ILEA times living in Kernow ,but skool up de line,I won the London schools cup on the Thames at Kingston,and I didn't live there lol,bleak ,dace,roach ,ruffle,...not much river fishing in the Valency lol..
Long time ago...
I lived a parallel life 20/80...!..
Yep,and Ray Mumford ,always dressed smart ,suit n tie,made his own dappled floats,the neatest tidiest angler you'll ever meet ,Ray was instigator of modern role pole fishing...
My father ,uncles all friends with Gerry Doughty, a hardware shop.then,but turned into Gerrys of Wimbledon..
My self ,a registered PHU pupil ,back in ILEA times living in Kernow ,but skool up de line,I won the London schools cup on the Thames at Kingston,and I didn't live there lol,bleak ,dace,roach ,ruffle,...not much river fishing in the Valency lol..
Long time ago...
I lived a parallel life 20/80...!..
In reply to Post #53
Billy Makin,of course,yes...famous name,and if my memory serves me right I had some wire stem stick floats with his name on..
All these famous names, has anyone mentioned
Ian Heaps
Dave Thomas
John Dean...
Billy Makin,of course,yes...famous name,and if my memory serves me right I had some wire stem stick floats with his name on..
All these famous names, has anyone mentioned
Ian Heaps
Dave Thomas
John Dean...
In reply to Post #54
Used to jump on a 37 bus to Richmond with my tackle used to see Ray Mumford a few times when the matches were on. Nice bags of Dace.
Also i had Benny Ashurst book of float fishing (might still have it somewhere) and learnt so much from it
Used to go to KC Angling, Gerry's and Croydon Angling with John McCarthy.
Used to jump on a 37 bus to Richmond with my tackle used to see Ray Mumford a few times when the matches were on. Nice bags of Dace.
Also i had Benny Ashurst book of float fishing (might still have it somewhere) and learnt so much from it
Used to go to KC Angling, Gerry's and Croydon Angling with John McCarthy.
In reply to Post #56
Tell a lie it was Billy Lanes book on float fishing
Tell a lie it was Billy Lanes book on float fishing
In reply to Post #50
Great stuff, I fished the thames at oxford , one day walked along the tow path and watched the isis match team practicing, well this geez caught 40 lb of roach, I could not sleep properly for a week thinking what I had seed, truly a different level to me and my brother
Great stuff, I fished the thames at oxford , one day walked along the tow path and watched the isis match team practicing, well this geez caught 40 lb of roach, I could not sleep properly for a week thinking what I had seed, truly a different level to me and my brother
In reply to Post #55
My Dad was a "ledger" angler back in the 70's for bags of Bream and would travel all over with an AA map just to be there for daylight to fill up his keepnet. Brixton to Birmingham for a day session was common place.
Ian Heaps is the only man he used to mention when I was a child quiver tipping for roach.
As for my inspirations, it had to be John Wilson and Matt Hayes. My old man used to mimic JW's laugh whenever he would get a take at 4am as the sun came up over the valley...
Later on, I think only Martin Bowler comes close in terms of all round atmospheric angling. His sticky baits videos were highly enjoyable, as were the ones with Hugh Miles.
We won't be getting content like that in the next 20 years. We all laugh at old boys who talk about the good old days, well it will be the same in the future. I very much doubt 4k drone footage of a double barrelled spod hitting a lake in slow motion, zooming in to within a gnatscock of the surface, will have the same warm atmospheric reaction.
My Dad was a "ledger" angler back in the 70's for bags of Bream and would travel all over with an AA map just to be there for daylight to fill up his keepnet. Brixton to Birmingham for a day session was common place.
Ian Heaps is the only man he used to mention when I was a child quiver tipping for roach.
As for my inspirations, it had to be John Wilson and Matt Hayes. My old man used to mimic JW's laugh whenever he would get a take at 4am as the sun came up over the valley...
Later on, I think only Martin Bowler comes close in terms of all round atmospheric angling. His sticky baits videos were highly enjoyable, as were the ones with Hugh Miles.
We won't be getting content like that in the next 20 years. We all laugh at old boys who talk about the good old days, well it will be the same in the future. I very much doubt 4k drone footage of a double barrelled spod hitting a lake in slow motion, zooming in to within a gnatscock of the surface, will have the same warm atmospheric reaction.
Peter Wheat
Dick Clegg
Bob Nudd.
Dick Clegg
Bob Nudd.