In reply to Post #43
Probably because it's nowhere near as effective as other vaccines and works differently.
Probably because it's nowhere near as effective as other vaccines and works differently.
In reply to Post #44
The only argument I've seen as selfish is your own. You don't want to go out so no one can. Now that's selfish. how is walking up a hill or sitting with a rod any more of a danger to health if alone ?
I'm more than happy to stop in doors if they do it properly where everyone is in lockdown. But while there's 22 people playing football and people working jobs that are not essential I won't be making my self a prisoner either.
How are bait and tackle shops essential , many are click and collect but that's still not essential , there's 1000s working jobs non essential,
Just because someone doesn't agree doesn't mean the rest are dickheads
The only argument I've seen as selfish is your own. You don't want to go out so no one can. Now that's selfish. how is walking up a hill or sitting with a rod any more of a danger to health if alone ?
I'm more than happy to stop in doors if they do it properly where everyone is in lockdown. But while there's 22 people playing football and people working jobs that are not essential I won't be making my self a prisoner either.
How are bait and tackle shops essential , many are click and collect but that's still not essential , there's 1000s working jobs non essential,
Just because someone doesn't agree doesn't mean the rest are dickheads
In reply to Post #46
Better than no vaccine at all though surely
Better than no vaccine at all though surely
In reply to Post #48
Clearly.
Just giving a reason as to why they may be prioritising other, more effective, vaccine orders first.
Of course it could just be that they can't distribute it quick enough so no point ordering more than you can handle. But then the manufacturers themselves aren't controlled by the government and the British government are not the sole customers. If anything the lack of producing to capacity is on the manufacturer not the customer?
Clearly.
Just giving a reason as to why they may be prioritising other, more effective, vaccine orders first.
Of course it could just be that they can't distribute it quick enough so no point ordering more than you can handle. But then the manufacturers themselves aren't controlled by the government and the British government are not the sole customers. If anything the lack of producing to capacity is on the manufacturer not the customer?
In reply to Post #47
bait and tackle shops aren't essential. don't recall saying they were. they are like fishing for pleasure - not essential.
i also never said I would be staying in because 'i want to'. I'll be doing it because there's a bigger picture and it benefits others. I'll be going in to work when needed to supervise key worker and vulnerable kids and I'll be delivering online lessons from home when I can.
disagreeing doesn't make someone a dickhead (something else I never said)
one could argue that saying 'footballers are being instructed to still go to work, then I'm going to go out and do what i 'want' to ' does though...I'll let others be the judge of that
bait and tackle shops aren't essential. don't recall saying they were. they are like fishing for pleasure - not essential.
i also never said I would be staying in because 'i want to'. I'll be doing it because there's a bigger picture and it benefits others. I'll be going in to work when needed to supervise key worker and vulnerable kids and I'll be delivering online lessons from home when I can.
disagreeing doesn't make someone a dickhead (something else I never said)
one could argue that saying 'footballers are being instructed to still go to work, then I'm going to go out and do what i 'want' to ' does though...I'll let others be the judge of that
In reply to Post #49
The government have instructed AstraZeneca to slow production down.It could be why you have stated but if its no vaccine or something that can prevent the virus,I know which I would choose
The government have instructed AstraZeneca to slow production down.It could be why you have stated but if its no vaccine or something that can prevent the virus,I know which I would choose
In reply to Post #50
If you're a pro angler, places to get your kit from are essential to your angling are they not?
If you're a pro angler, places to get your kit from are essential to your angling are they not?
In reply to Post #52
Maybe pro anglers should furlough themselves?
Maybe pro anglers should furlough themselves?
In reply to Post #52
How many ‘pro' anglers are there? That actually solely fish for a living. I'm not talking about anyone that has another job inside a bait or tackle firm, fishery, etc. One that is solely employed to go fishing.
How many ‘pro' anglers are there? That actually solely fish for a living. I'm not talking about anyone that has another job inside a bait or tackle firm, fishery, etc. One that is solely employed to go fishing.
In reply to Post #52
If you are a pro angler I doubt you would need a tackleshop,you would surely be sponsored and your gear sent to you either free or at cost
If you are a pro angler I doubt you would need a tackleshop,you would surely be sponsored and your gear sent to you either free or at cost
In reply to Post #52
I don't think competitive angling is on the list of 'elite sports'
match fishing is prohibited
and as Braders says - sponsored anglers don't need to go shopping - i don't remember seeing Ali Hamdi popping in to my local tackle shop for a couple of pints of mixed maggot and a handful of feeders any time recently....
I don't think competitive angling is on the list of 'elite sports'
match fishing is prohibited
and as Braders says - sponsored anglers don't need to go shopping - i don't remember seeing Ali Hamdi popping in to my local tackle shop for a couple of pints of mixed maggot and a handful of feeders any time recently....
In reply to Post #50
. . .this debate is doing nothing other than polarizing society - even us as anglers who are 'normally' a relatively unified and consistent group of nerdy hobbyists that like nothing other than sticking sharp steel into fishy mouths . . .
As per the other Covid related post - people need to be able to make up their own minds about the situation at hand, be able to express themselves without being shot down (everyone is being affected in different ways) and also feel free to be able to decide how they consequently act going forward . . . . . . . . . . and that includes going fishing if it respects the safety of oneself and others . . .
. . .this debate is doing nothing other than polarizing society - even us as anglers who are 'normally' a relatively unified and consistent group of nerdy hobbyists that like nothing other than sticking sharp steel into fishy mouths . . .
As per the other Covid related post - people need to be able to make up their own minds about the situation at hand, be able to express themselves without being shot down (everyone is being affected in different ways) and also feel free to be able to decide how they consequently act going forward . . . . . . . . . . and that includes going fishing if it respects the safety of oneself and others . . .
In reply to Post #57
i'd agree that this is polarizing society. not so much that anglers are normally unified though - have you read the Bait section?
as for people making their minds up - again, i agree that people should be able to express their opinions (and be challenged on them), but allowing people to make up their mind whether or not to follow guidelines / laws that are in place for public health / safety isn't a good idea. too many people who think only of themselves - in my opinion of course.
i'd agree that this is polarizing society. not so much that anglers are normally unified though - have you read the Bait section?
as for people making their minds up - again, i agree that people should be able to express their opinions (and be challenged on them), but allowing people to make up their mind whether or not to follow guidelines / laws that are in place for public health / safety isn't a good idea. too many people who think only of themselves - in my opinion of course.
In reply to Post #56
I was thinking more the likes of Mr Hearn. If you watched one of his videos where he was going on about how important it was for him to have perfectly fresh casters and then pops into his favourite tackle shop to pick up an order.
I was thinking more the likes of Mr Hearn. If you watched one of his videos where he was going on about how important it was for him to have perfectly fresh casters and then pops into his favourite tackle shop to pick up an order.
In reply to Post #58
So we are on lockdown,yet planes are going over my house all the time from Manchester Airport.Yet again we are not just in this ****storm because people are not listening but also because the government have acted too slowly time and time again
So we are on lockdown,yet planes are going over my house all the time from Manchester Airport.Yet again we are not just in this ****storm because people are not listening but also because the government have acted too slowly time and time again