In reply to Post #45
Hahaha he certainly isn't happy!!
Bit of a mixed statement there in my eyes, he sells out asap but wants the acknowledgement of his creations.
Well he's doing something right to get the sales, maybe that isn't enough for him.
Very good baits but there is plenty of other options out there
Hahaha he certainly isn't happy!!
Bit of a mixed statement there in my eyes, he sells out asap but wants the acknowledgement of his creations.
Well he's doing something right to get the sales, maybe that isn't enough for him.
Very good baits but there is plenty of other options out there
In reply to Post #45
Ha ha that made me laugh too...sure that would lead to a very interesting conversation with the self proclaimed master T-Carper if he found out!
He's made himself look like the end of a bell there I reckon
Ha ha that made me laugh too...sure that would lead to a very interesting conversation with the self proclaimed master T-Carper if he found out!
He's made himself look like the end of a bell there I reckon
In reply to Post #47
hi all.
I've not posted on here for a long time but having read Mitch's post I've got to agree with some of it.
When I was running UB Baits I had several high profile anglers using my baits and catching a lot of fish on them, a few weeks later you would see in print in a big, well known carp magazine "here's XXXXXXX with a 28lb common caught live in session for us on sticky baits pop ups" - because they were a sticky bait angler. I even talked this through on the phone with one of them at the time and he said "sorry mate i've no choice, I can't tell the truth or i'ld lose my deal".
That's modern carp fishing I am afraid. It is extremely frustrating for the person making the hookbaits - sometimes it's not about the money, it's just about a bit of integrity. And would it really hurt sticky baits, or any other bait company, for the write up to have read "and here's XXXX with a 28lb common caught on a UB Baits Ting tong corkball over a bad of Sticky Baits manilla" - not at all.
There's so little integrity left in carp fishing you honestly can't trust a word of what's printed now I am afraid.
Matt
hi all.
I've not posted on here for a long time but having read Mitch's post I've got to agree with some of it.
When I was running UB Baits I had several high profile anglers using my baits and catching a lot of fish on them, a few weeks later you would see in print in a big, well known carp magazine "here's XXXXXXX with a 28lb common caught live in session for us on sticky baits pop ups" - because they were a sticky bait angler. I even talked this through on the phone with one of them at the time and he said "sorry mate i've no choice, I can't tell the truth or i'ld lose my deal".
That's modern carp fishing I am afraid. It is extremely frustrating for the person making the hookbaits - sometimes it's not about the money, it's just about a bit of integrity. And would it really hurt sticky baits, or any other bait company, for the write up to have read "and here's XXXX with a 28lb common caught on a UB Baits Ting tong corkball over a bad of Sticky Baits manilla" - not at all.
There's so little integrity left in carp fishing you honestly can't trust a word of what's printed now I am afraid.
Matt
In reply to Post #48
Very true me Matt, hope you are well mate.
I think the only honest capture on a different hookbait to freebies from memory, was when Phil Harper caught the Snake pit common on a Rod hutchinson protein mix pop up, over a bed over Savay seed mix freebies.
Think there was a Hoo ha about that capture TBH.
Some People are so desperate that they will sell their soul to a brand for a deal Even if it ain't all that.
Very true me Matt, hope you are well mate.
I think the only honest capture on a different hookbait to freebies from memory, was when Phil Harper caught the Snake pit common on a Rod hutchinson protein mix pop up, over a bed over Savay seed mix freebies.
Think there was a Hoo ha about that capture TBH.
Some People are so desperate that they will sell their soul to a brand for a deal
Even if it ain't all that.
In reply to Post #43
So apparently he is incapable of training a couple of youngsters to knock up bait alongside him. He may be the world's best bait maker but he's the world's worst businessman. I wish him luck in his next venture. With his business acumen he's going to need it.
So apparently he is incapable of training a couple of youngsters to knock up bait alongside him. He may be the world's best bait maker but he's the world's worst businessman. I wish him luck in his next venture. With his business acumen he's going to need it.
In reply to Post #50
Why the nastiness? If he don't want to make and sell bait any more for whatever reasons, why should it bother you?
Why the nastiness? If he don't want to make and sell bait any more for whatever reasons, why should it bother you?
In reply to Post #51
scaley & dark
thanks mate - yes very well. Appreciate you asking.
selling your soul - that's exactly it, nail on head!
all the best
Matt
scaley & dark
thanks mate - yes very well. Appreciate you asking.
selling your soul - that's exactly it, nail on head!
all the best
Matt
In reply to Post #51
Not being nasty, and couldn't care less if he makes bait or not. Just don't moan about being successful as a reason to close a business. If it's genuinely about the morality of captures being misrepresented then that's his choice. Personally I'd carry on and laugh all the way to the bank.
Not being nasty, and couldn't care less if he makes bait or not. Just don't moan about being successful as a reason to close a business. If it's genuinely about the morality of captures being misrepresented then that's his choice. Personally I'd carry on and laugh all the way to the bank.
In reply to Post #53
You think the angling industry is bad you should see the MSM media they are the worst at lying and pretending something is something else.
You think the angling industry is bad you should see the MSM media they are the worst at lying and pretending something is something else.
In reply to Post #52
That's good Matt
Take it easy, and get some fishing in.
That's good Matt
Take it easy, and get some fishing in.
In reply to Post #50
I think you will find that there is mental fragility in play here.
I think you will find that there is mental fragility in play here.
In reply to Post #55
On the canal tonight mate fingers crossed
On the canal tonight mate fingers crossed
In reply to Post #57
The whole issue of people catching a fish on one bait and reporting it as another has been going on for years, and always will. The snake pit common was a good example mentioned earlier in this thread. I dread to think of how many fish have been caught on tiger nuts and then reported as X bait over the years...it used to happen on Yateley CP lake all the time for example.
The way I see it is this, bait rollers have two options. Either put up with it, keep supplying these people with bait and keep taking their money (as it is business after all) OR they can get precious about it any throw their toys out of the pram. 'Buu bbuutt it was caught on my bait, not what he reported...' Maybe I'm caring less and less as I mature but I couldnt give a rats backside what such and such fish was caught on nowadays
The whole issue of people catching a fish on one bait and reporting it as another has been going on for years, and always will. The snake pit common was a good example mentioned earlier in this thread. I dread to think of how many fish have been caught on tiger nuts and then reported as X bait over the years...it used to happen on Yateley CP lake all the time for example.
The way I see it is this, bait rollers have two options. Either put up with it, keep supplying these people with bait and keep taking their money (as it is business after all) OR they can get precious about it any throw their toys out of the pram. 'Buu bbuutt it was caught on my bait, not what he reported...' Maybe I'm caring less and less as I mature but I couldnt give a rats backside what such and such fish was caught on nowadays
In reply to Post #58
Never taken much notice of catch reports tbh. Word of mouth from real anglers any day over some **** in a hat.
Never taken much notice of catch reports tbh. Word of mouth from real anglers any day over some **** in a hat.
30 quid for a tub of pop ups, I'd be up all night on red bull!