In reply to Post #45
Very kind of you mate appreciate that, I'll give them a call 👍🏻
Very kind of you mate appreciate that, I'll give them a call 👍🏻
Right carrying on the theme of fishing at distance using a boat to bait and place the rigs, what type of lead setup and minimum weight do you guys recommend, this may be governed a bit by the rules I suppose, as I won't be allowed to use leaders of any type, the lake bed is supposedly firm and made up of clay, sand and gravel with little silt, but it can be rocky in places.
In reply to Post #36
Just use 2 pieces of conduit fixed together, they are designed to stick together, that gives you around 14ft,,,,
Thats what we do, and we araldite a large heavy bolt in the bottom of the tube, cork in the top....this avoids any gap at the base for line to get caught round....in practice it rarely happens anyway, but better safe than sorry..
Just use 2 pieces of conduit fixed together, they are designed to stick together, that gives you around 14ft,,,,
Thats what we do, and we araldite a large heavy bolt in the bottom of the tube, cork in the top....this avoids any gap at the base for line to get caught round....in practice it rarely happens anyway, but better safe than sorry..
In reply to Post #47
A lot will depend on the size of the lake and the range you are going. If you are fishing an expansive water where the water moves as the weather comes in out at 200 yards + it will be different to lets say a 50 acre lake at 100 yards. I've used anything between 4oz and 8oz on lakes.. A lot more on rivers.
A lot will depend on the size of the lake and the range you are going. If you are fishing an expansive water where the water moves as the weather comes in out at 200 yards + it will be different to lets say a 50 acre lake at 100 yards. I've used anything between 4oz and 8oz on lakes.. A lot more on rivers.
In reply to Post #49
Cheers mate, it's a 34 acres with the productive areas anything upto 190 meters where it's averaging 3 meters deep, I've bought a load of 4 oz flat pears thinking I'd fish with a lead clip setup then if undertow is a problem I can put 2 on, but ideally I'd rather not leave a load of lead in the lake so was thinking of making some big stones type leads that will drop on the take. But I wasn't sure if I'd be better of fishing helicopter rigs rather than lead clips?
Cheers mate, it's a 34 acres with the productive areas anything upto 190 meters where it's averaging 3 meters deep, I've bought a load of 4 oz flat pears thinking I'd fish with a lead clip setup then if undertow is a problem I can put 2 on, but ideally I'd rather not leave a load of lead in the lake so was thinking of making some big stones type leads that will drop on the take. But I wasn't sure if I'd be better of fishing helicopter rigs rather than lead clips?
In reply to Post #50
I've used both clips and helicopter setups and it just depends if its safer for me to dump the lead or not. Flat Pears are good or just use Grippa style leads. At that distance you want contact to be as direct as possible so dumping the lead on the take would be my preference.
At 34 acres are you only fishing from one bank? 190 metres seems a long way out?
I've used both clips and helicopter setups and it just depends if its safer for me to dump the lead or not. Flat Pears are good or just use Grippa style leads. At that distance you want contact to be as direct as possible so dumping the lead on the take would be my preference.
At 34 acres are you only fishing from one bank? 190 metres seems a long way out?
In reply to Post #51
The lake is split into 2 with a rope and buoys, we have half the lake exclusive just fishing from one bank, and from what I gather as everyone uses the boys as markers these have become the hotpots, I've checked the distances on Google earth and the minimum distance to the rope is about 130 with 200 in the middle swims. I've never really fish with helicopter rigs so would feel more confident using lead clips but would make the change if there was any massive benefits to using a heli setup, but with not much silt to worry about I can't really see any. If dropping the lead would be advantageous I'd rather just attach a swivel to a rock and use that as I don't really agree with dumping leads unless it's really essential for fish safety.
The lake is split into 2 with a rope and buoys, we have half the lake exclusive just fishing from one bank, and from what I gather as everyone uses the boys as markers these have become the hotpots, I've checked the distances on Google earth and the minimum distance to the rope is about 130 with 200 in the middle swims. I've never really fish with helicopter rigs so would feel more confident using lead clips but would make the change if there was any massive benefits to using a heli setup, but with not much silt to worry about I can't really see any. If dropping the lead would be advantageous I'd rather just attach a swivel to a rock and use that as I don't really agree with dumping leads unless it's really essential for fish safety.
In reply to Post #52
Hi Chris,
There is no need to use lead when boating out, a large pebble or rock attached using the reverse bungee system will hold the rig in place and easily release upon a take.
I've always used either "lead clips" or bungeed straight onto the swivel between the mainline and the hooklink
Best
Jon
Hi Chris,
There is no need to use lead when boating out, a large pebble or rock attached using the reverse bungee system will hold the rig in place and easily release upon a take.
I've always used either "lead clips" or bungeed straight onto the swivel between the mainline and the hooklink
Best
Jon
In reply to Post #53
Thanks Jon, that sounds perfect. Would you be kind enough to explain the reverse bungee system as I'm not sure what you mean lol.
Thanks Jon, that sounds perfect. Would you be kind enough to explain the reverse bungee system as I'm not sure what you mean lol.
In reply to Post #54
Hi Chris
Its basically a weak link. I've recently been using 1.25lb pole elastic to get a vertical presentation off a tree branch, it basically breaks on the take but holds everything in position.
You can attach the preffered weight with either industrial rubber bands, drilling and gluing half swivels or cutting loops off the arms and legs off a second hand children's wetsuit (cost £2 and lasted ages)
Then attach the weak link to the weight (about 1.5 inch in length which will give indication of any nuisance fish takes) and the swivel that attaches your mainline to your hooklink.
With trial and error depending on the venue you can fish fairly tight lines at range doing this and the weight gets dropped every time.
If I've not explained this properly give me a pm and I'll give it another go at explaining it
Best
Jon
Hi Chris
Its basically a weak link. I've recently been using 1.25lb pole elastic to get a vertical presentation off a tree branch, it basically breaks on the take but holds everything in position.
You can attach the preffered weight with either industrial rubber bands, drilling and gluing half swivels or cutting loops off the arms and legs off a second hand children's wetsuit (cost £2 and lasted ages)
Then attach the weak link to the weight (about 1.5 inch in length which will give indication of any nuisance fish takes) and the swivel that attaches your mainline to your hooklink.
With trial and error depending on the venue you can fish fairly tight lines at range doing this and the weight gets dropped every time.
If I've not explained this properly give me a pm and I'll give it another go at explaining it
Best
Jon
In reply to Post #55
Hi Jon, thanks for taking the time to explain, I'm pretty sure I get what your saying, basically just putting something on the rock so you can then tie it to the swivel or the lead clip. I'd imagine the stretchiness of the pole elastic gives the fish something different to deal with aswell. I've seen on YouTube someone making weights from cement, which I may have a little play with.
Thanks again much appreciated.
Hi Jon, thanks for taking the time to explain, I'm pretty sure I get what your saying, basically just putting something on the rock so you can then tie it to the swivel or the lead clip. I'd imagine the stretchiness of the pole elastic gives the fish something different to deal with aswell. I've seen on YouTube someone making weights from cement, which I may have a little play with.
Thanks again much appreciated.
In reply to Post #53
Years ago I used to use a boat to drop my rigs in place on a lake in Norfolk. I would wrap some hessian thread around a decent shape and sized stone, then tie it with a knot, exactly as you would a shoelace, to a swivel on the lead link.
As you hit the take, the knot would pull undone leaving the stone on the lakebed. You'd get the thread back for reuse.
Years ago I used to use a boat to drop my rigs in place on a lake in Norfolk. I would wrap some hessian thread around a decent shape and sized stone, then tie it with a knot, exactly as you would a shoelace, to a swivel on the lead link.
As you hit the take, the knot would pull undone leaving the stone on the lakebed. You'd get the thread back for reuse.
An easy way to connect a stone that you wish to be discarded on the take is via a slightly opened out paperclip tied to the stone...it straightens out easy enough and is used a lot by pike anglers presenting deadbaits.
In reply to Post #1
Check out the marker buoys by Poseidon. Because of their shape, you can lift the line over them without tangling.
Check out the marker buoys by Poseidon. Because of their shape, you can lift the line over them without tangling.
In reply to Post #1
Bottle markers incase the predator anglers take your H-blocks and GPS on your echo.
Bottle markers incase the predator anglers take your H-blocks and GPS on your echo.