In reply to Post #44
Angling is a mass hobby pursued by many different demographics in this country for their own reasons. It works well. Many, I'd say the majority I've met have never killed an animal. The link between angler's and field sport's is diminishing. Field sports supporting folk should get this and adapt.
No excuses for this type of killing of a protected species anymore, anywhere, wether you agree with re-wilding or not.
Angling is a mass hobby pursued by many different demographics in this country for their own reasons. It works well. Many, I'd say the majority I've met have never killed an animal. The link between angler's and field sport's is diminishing. Field sports supporting folk should get this and adapt.
No excuses for this type of killing of a protected species anymore, anywhere, wether you agree with re-wilding or not.
In reply to Post #46
Grow up
For dinner I had a sheep's head with the back legs on
Grow up
For dinner I had a sheep's head with the back legs on
In reply to Post #47
You might not like hypocrisy. But it's the way the world work's.
Wise up
You might not like hypocrisy. But it's the way the world work's.
Wise up
In reply to Post #48
Your gonna tell me your one of these new world vegans next aren't you?
Your gonna tell me your one of these new world vegans next aren't you?
In reply to Post #49
No
No
In reply to Post #29
I don't trust natural England either wandle. I'd have thought a court would be interested in facts, but I suspect the environmental impact was a side issue and glossed over due to the nature of the case. I'm not a lawyer or involved in the case so can only guess.
I know very little of the history of the re-introduction of, as The late John Wilson put : Britain's biggest land rat! Perhaps you could point me in the right direction of some literature on the subject. I'd be interested in investigating this further.
My concern is apathy from other anglers on the otter issue. There's millions of us anglers right? We line the environment agency's pockets every year. My sad observation is that unless an issue directly threatens people, the masses aren't interested in getting involved. But what can be done to challenge this? Maybe we need a fishing Greta Thunberg......
I know that the Angling Trust gets some stick, but all anglers should be a member. Just my tuppence worth.
I don't trust natural England either wandle. I'd have thought a court would be interested in facts, but I suspect the environmental impact was a side issue and glossed over due to the nature of the case. I'm not a lawyer or involved in the case so can only guess.
I know very little of the history of the re-introduction of, as The late John Wilson put : Britain's biggest land rat! Perhaps you could point me in the right direction of some literature on the subject. I'd be interested in investigating this further.
My concern is apathy from other anglers on the otter issue. There's millions of us anglers right? We line the environment agency's pockets every year. My sad observation is that unless an issue directly threatens people, the masses aren't interested in getting involved. But what can be done to challenge this? Maybe we need a fishing Greta Thunberg......
I know that the Angling Trust gets some stick, but all anglers should be a member. Just my tuppence worth.
In reply to Post #50
In reply to Post #52
I've a photo from 1991 in a draw somewhere with me front and center with 2 hanging blue Marlin and 3 Sailfish. 1 of the Blues was 400lb+, a mature female. Times change and so should attitudes towards natural wildlife. I'm embarrassed by that photo and keep it to remind me.
My take on otters is get on with your angling. It's a great hobby. I've never been comfortable with angling behind fences, so probably never will. Tight lines to those that are and good luck.
I've a photo from 1991 in a draw somewhere with me front and center with 2 hanging blue Marlin and 3 Sailfish. 1 of the Blues was 400lb+, a mature female. Times change and so should attitudes towards natural wildlife. I'm embarrassed by that photo and keep it to remind me.
My take on otters is get on with your angling. It's a great hobby. I've never been comfortable with angling behind fences, so probably never will. Tight lines to those that are and good luck.
In reply to Post #53
What are you ashamed of? Catching them or the fact they were killed afterwards or both? Were you ashamed at the time or just now?
What are you ashamed of? Catching them or the fact they were killed afterwards or both? Were you ashamed at the time or just now?
In reply to Post #39
Lyons gate fishery is on a small caravan site in the village of the same name between Sherborne and Dorchester. I go there for a days float or feeder fishing or take my grandson occasionally. There are a number of ponds, very small with the biggest about an acre. The stocking levels are huge, many times I have caught 20 plus carp in a day without targeting them. This is a prime example of a totally unnatural man made eco system being dropped in the middle of our countryside. No different to a battery farm. It needs the same kind of security. The problem is not otters, ospreys, herons or cormorants, it is not environmentalists it is carp fisherman who have no empathy with or respect for their quarry, no care or understanding for the countryside. It is fishery owners, media
and manufacturers exploiting this. It boils down to greed for numbers, weights and money that has largely destroyed a sport I have loved for over 50 years. This fishery could easily have been fenced, but that might take a few quid out of someone's pocket. Reading some of these posts and knowing how many commercial modern fisheries are run I despair for the future of angling
Lyons gate fishery is on a small caravan site in the village of the same name between Sherborne and Dorchester. I go there for a days float or feeder fishing or take my grandson occasionally. There are a number of ponds, very small with the biggest about an acre. The stocking levels are huge, many times I have caught 20 plus carp in a day without targeting them. This is a prime example of a totally unnatural man made eco system being dropped in the middle of our countryside. No different to a battery farm. It needs the same kind of security. The problem is not otters, ospreys, herons or cormorants, it is not environmentalists it is carp fisherman who have no empathy with or respect for their quarry, no care or understanding for the countryside. It is fishery owners, media
and manufacturers exploiting this. It boils down to greed for numbers, weights and money that has largely destroyed a sport I have loved for over 50 years. This fishery could easily have been fenced, but that might take a few quid out of someone's pocket. Reading some of these posts and knowing how many commercial modern fisheries are run I despair for the future of angling
In reply to Post #54
Why do those questions matter to you?
Nosey?
Why do those questions matter to you?
Nosey?
In reply to Post #55
I know...
The only reason I mentioned it was because my two friends fished it, before they passed on..
I avoid those places too..!!!...not my cup of tea.
I know...
The only reason I mentioned it was because my two friends fished it, before they passed on..
I avoid those places too..!!!...not my cup of tea.
In reply to Post #57
Sorry. No disrespect intended.
Sorry. No disrespect intended.
In reply to Post #56
Sorry ocelot, perhaps I should have PM'd you. I just wondered why having the opportunity to fish for and catch such amazing fish would be anything other than an incredible fishing experience and one to be proud of.
My apologies if it came across as being nosey.
Sorry ocelot, perhaps I should have PM'd you. I just wondered why having the opportunity to fish for and catch such amazing fish would be anything other than an incredible fishing experience and one to be proud of.
My apologies if it came across as being nosey.
In reply to Post #53
I don't particularly like to be fishing behind fences either, but if those fences were not there ,there would be virtually no fish left,the ecosystem in the lake will be even more diminished as the waterfowl get mullered too..!!!...
The whole pyramid of life becomes defunct after a while,the kingfishers stop coming,because the small fish have gone..and so on..
Its the other way around,everything inside the fenced venues I manage and other places I fish ,thrives....
Each to their own as they say...I'm lucky because I have places to go that I know,have some nice fish,not monsters but fish that are alive....and not many humans...!!
I don't particularly like to be fishing behind fences either, but if those fences were not there ,there would be virtually no fish left,the ecosystem in the lake will be even more diminished as the waterfowl get mullered too..!!!...
The whole pyramid of life becomes defunct after a while,the kingfishers stop coming,because the small fish have gone..and so on..
Its the other way around,everything inside the fenced venues I manage and other places I fish ,thrives....
Each to their own as they say...I'm lucky because I have places to go that I know,have some nice fish,not monsters but fish that are alive....and not many humans...!!