Hi folks
I'm looking at getting some Chub Small Water 11ft 2.25lb rods, but noticed Greys do a similar GT2 model. Has anyone seen the greys model in the flesh and could share your thoughts please?
It's definitely an 11 footer I'm after. Sadly can't stretch to the Harrisons just yet 😬
From memory both companys have the same owner, so I'm guessing they may even be the same blank.
I'm looking at getting some Chub Small Water 11ft 2.25lb rods, but noticed Greys do a similar GT2 model. Has anyone seen the greys model in the flesh and could share your thoughts please?
It's definitely an 11 footer I'm after. Sadly can't stretch to the Harrisons just yet 😬
From memory both companys have the same owner, so I'm guessing they may even be the same blank.
In reply to Post #46
Forget short, too many people try short rods and find that they feel really weird, can't cast, and they don't like them.
I invested in some 10 footers which turned into a very expensive rebuild project but within weeks they ended up in a charity shop for £20 each as I just couldn't stand them and found them horrible to use. (Trust me a lot of 8,9, 10 footers end up on ebay) - 11 footers are nice though, used to be a popular length back in the day - but the fact is that 12 footers are really nice to play fish on and make casting a lot easier as well.
The best small water fish playing rod, (which will be more than adequate for a huge variety of other lakes and any different sizes of carp), is a 2.75lb Daiwa Whisker DF
They are UK made and an absolute dream to play fish on.
They are not bad casting rods but the action is much more about fish playing. I wouldn't hesitate to use them again as my only set even though I use more pricey Infinities, (and they can be found for as little as £100)..
The blanks are in a different league to a lot of the paper thin cheap rods about.
Forget short, too many people try short rods and find that they feel really weird, can't cast, and they don't like them.
I invested in some 10 footers which turned into a very expensive rebuild project but within weeks they ended up in a charity shop for £20 each as I just couldn't stand them and found them horrible to use. (Trust me a lot of 8,9, 10 footers end up on ebay) - 11 footers are nice though, used to be a popular length back in the day - but the fact is that 12 footers are really nice to play fish on and make casting a lot easier as well.
The best small water fish playing rod, (which will be more than adequate for a huge variety of other lakes and any different sizes of carp), is a 2.75lb Daiwa Whisker DF
They are UK made and an absolute dream to play fish on.
They are not bad casting rods but the action is much more about fish playing. I wouldn't hesitate to use them again as my only set even though I use more pricey Infinities, (and they can be found for as little as £100)..
The blanks are in a different league to a lot of the paper thin cheap rods about.
In reply to Post #47
Its all down to personal preference...You had a bad experience with a set you bought..Thought an expensive rebuild would rectify the issue( rarely if ever does a rebuild rectify an inherent problem, as its often down to the blank.. or the users casting action.) got your fingers burnt when it failed then saw them going for a song.... Its going to leave you bitter and twisted and totally against them! Most of us who use them do so for a couple of reasons..boat use/ fish generally smaller waters where a 60yd cast is close to max' needed range/restricted back swing prohibiting use of longer rods/ transportation or a combo of these.
You state they don't cast...strange that I can manage to hit a measured 100yrds with my 10ft 3.5's and i'm not a big hitter by any means...Sure there are others on here able to do the same
As for stating your choice of 2.75 DF being the best choice bar none is ..your opinion..not fact. Yes they're a capable rod, but not for everyone...Some might prefer a barbel/softer rod as per your post #42 where you contradict your own comment that a DF 2.75 is the best....
Its all down to personal preference...You had a bad experience with a set you bought..Thought an expensive rebuild would rectify the issue( rarely if ever does a rebuild rectify an inherent problem, as its often down to the blank.. or the users casting action.) got your fingers burnt when it failed then saw them going for a song.... Its going to leave you bitter and twisted and totally against them! Most of us who use them do so for a couple of reasons..boat use/ fish generally smaller waters where a 60yd cast is close to max' needed range/restricted back swing prohibiting use of longer rods/ transportation or a combo of these.
You state they don't cast...strange that I can manage to hit a measured 100yrds with my 10ft 3.5's and i'm not a big hitter by any means...Sure there are others on here able to do the same
As for stating your choice of 2.75 DF being the best choice bar none is ..your opinion..not fact. Yes they're a capable rod, but not for everyone...Some might prefer a barbel/softer rod as per your post #42 where you contradict your own comment that a DF 2.75 is the best....
No my problem, as I explained, is that short rods are absolutely horrible to use
The ones I got were high end, there was nothing wrong with the blanks whatsoever - you're talking to a trained rod builder mate
They will suit you though - so enjoy
Barbel rods will be great - but my thinking (as I explained) is that the Whisker will also suit a huge variety of different venues
Thanks for calling me bitter and twisted
You obviously know me really well from internet screen experience. Did you meet you wife like that as well!?
PS I could cast 100 yards with a broken pool cue so I'm not quite sure that's much of a boast
In reply to Post #48
Had no problems with my 10ft rods except I think the shorter handle makes them feel odd
Had no problems with my 10ft rods except I think the shorter handle makes them feel odd
In reply to Post #50
I've just done a quick comparison of some of my rods and the length does seem to vary a bit depending on manufacturer. I've an 8 ft with a short handle that as you say does feel a bit odd.
The 10 ft tfg compact and my other 10 ft rods are only about an inch shorter to the reel seat than my 12 ft Diawa's but I've never really noticed the difference when I made the change.
I must admit to be puzzled about the negative comments about using shorter rods. I've used rods from 8 to 13 ft for different situations but if space allows then any of my 10 ft rods would be my preferred option for a few reasons.
Rod blanks and builds obviously do vary but before buying I always do some research and select an action/ blank that should be to my liking and suit my requirements.
I've just done a quick comparison of some of my rods and the length does seem to vary a bit depending on manufacturer. I've an 8 ft with a short handle that as you say does feel a bit odd.
The 10 ft tfg compact and my other 10 ft rods are only about an inch shorter to the reel seat than my 12 ft Diawa's but I've never really noticed the difference when I made the change.
I must admit to be puzzled about the negative comments about using shorter rods. I've used rods from 8 to 13 ft for different situations but if space allows then any of my 10 ft rods would be my preferred option for a few reasons.
Rod blanks and builds obviously do vary but before buying I always do some research and select an action/ blank that should be to my liking and suit my requirements.
Good post
Rods are quite personal and you have to get to know them and get used to them as well
I was a bit blunt earlier when my word of warning should have been that a 9 footer can feel very awkward and weird if you are used to using 12 footers for many years
I still don't like stubby rods - they are unkind to carp's gobs with far too much torque going into the hookhold - I would only consider using a soft one with a stretchy line (if I had to, which won't happen)
In reply to Post #56
I nice 9ft 2.25 or 2.5tc would be my choice
I nice 9ft 2.25 or 2.5tc would be my choice
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In reply to Post #45
I got some of these from felindre.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Single-handle-to-fit-Shimano-XTE-XTEA-XTR-RA-XT-RB-SET-OF-3-
RD0010/153593329399
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RD0010-Single-handle-to-fit-Shimano-Super-Baitrunner-XTE-XTEA-XTR-RA-RB/153692602419
I got some of these from felindre.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Single-handle-to-fit-Shimano-XTE-XTEA-XTR-RA-XT-RB-SET-OF-3-
RD0010/153593329399
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RD0010-Single-handle-to-fit-Shimano-Super-Baitrunner-XTE-XTEA-XTR-RA-RB/153692602419
In reply to Post #78
Thanks mate, much appreciated 👍🏻
Thanks mate, much appreciated 👍🏻
In reply to Post #52
I don't like them either mate and found them awkward and brutal to use
There is no need for short rods, even on small venues
If the swim has overhanging trees you shouldn't be fishing it in the first place
All my rods are 12ft apart from some spinning and pier rods I own
I don't like them either mate and found them awkward and brutal to use
There is no need for short rods, even on small venues
If the swim has overhanging trees you shouldn't be fishing it in the first place
All my rods are 12ft apart from some spinning and pier rods I own
In reply to Post #80
Depends what you're used to???
When I was a kid, most of our fishing was done on 6' spinning rods. (it's all we could afford lol!), but as we got older we progressed on to 9 or 10' leger rods.
I now limit myself to 11 footers. I just feel happier with a slightly shorter rod in my hand.
I've tried 12 footers in the past, but I just can't get on with them. I can be a little more accurate with an 11 footer, and feel more in contact with the fish when playing them.
If I wanted more distance on a regular basis then I might buy 12 footers and persevere with them, but the maximum chuck for me is about 50 or 60 yards, and I can easily cope with this with my slightly shorter rods.
And as for your comment about overhanging trees, and not fishing it in the first place??
There's stalking gone out the window for a lot of anglers.....one of the best and most rewarding styles of fishing. Much more preferable than luzzing a bait out 120 yards and sitting behind an alarm or three.
Depends what you're used to???
When I was a kid, most of our fishing was done on 6' spinning rods. (it's all we could afford lol!), but as we got older we progressed on to 9 or 10' leger rods.
I now limit myself to 11 footers. I just feel happier with a slightly shorter rod in my hand.
I've tried 12 footers in the past, but I just can't get on with them. I can be a little more accurate with an 11 footer, and feel more in contact with the fish when playing them.
If I wanted more distance on a regular basis then I might buy 12 footers and persevere with them, but the maximum chuck for me is about 50 or 60 yards, and I can easily cope with this with my slightly shorter rods.
And as for your comment about overhanging trees, and not fishing it in the first place??
There's stalking gone out the window for a lot of anglers.....one of the best and most rewarding styles of fishing. Much more preferable than luzzing a bait out 120 yards and sitting behind an alarm or three.
In reply to Post #80
If the swim has overhanging trees you shouldn't be fishing it in the first place
Trees around lakes should all be ripped up, bloody eyesore that just get in the way.
If the swim has overhanging trees you shouldn't be fishing it in the first place
Trees around lakes should all be ripped up, bloody eyesore that just get in the way.
In reply to Post #81
Having spent many years spinning when I was younger I don't mind shorter rods. I don't get why they are so pokey though. I am looking at some 9 foot 2.75 scopes what's the action like. I have played with most scopes in a shop and they just feel so stiff. However the 9 foots do pack down small enough to be stashed on a top shelf in my van ready for the odd quiet day at work (when we're allowed out again!).
Having spent many years spinning when I was younger I don't mind shorter rods. I don't get why they are so pokey though. I am looking at some 9 foot 2.75 scopes what's the action like. I have played with most scopes in a shop and they just feel so stiff. However the 9 foots do pack down small enough to be stashed on a top shelf in my van ready for the odd quiet day at work (when we're allowed out again!).