In reply to Post #31
OP, like I said the fishing will change but the lake won't die completely like some are telling you. It'll be different and in years will recover as the otters move on.
Maybe in some places, maybe not.
The otters need for food will never go away, anything is fair game to otters, garden ponds, koi centres, birds, etc.
As these increasing & breeding numbers of escaped/released otter pairs/singles/pups increase, so will the area of 'their' 20 miles or so Territories, forcing any other otters that may intrude, to further afield into new areas ( like Liverpool now )
Any lakes on an otter route are at risk, maybe not in recent past times, or next year, but that can change overnight unfortunately. Especially in winter, the low water temps, make the carp easy pickings as they are less active.
You know there is a bit of an issue ( near a venue I used to fish ) when local council & do-gooders decide to build an otter tunnel under an A road dual carriageway so they don't get run over.
We have all just got to enjoy what we've got, when we've still got it.... or fence it, and restock.
The problem is here to stay.
OP, like I said the fishing will change but the lake won't die completely like some are telling you. It'll be different and in years will recover as the otters move on.
Maybe in some places, maybe not.
The otters need for food will never go away, anything is fair game to otters, garden ponds, koi centres, birds, etc.
As these increasing & breeding numbers of escaped/released otter pairs/singles/pups increase, so will the area of 'their' 20 miles or so Territories, forcing any other otters that may intrude, to further afield into new areas ( like Liverpool now )
Any lakes on an otter route are at risk, maybe not in recent past times, or next year, but that can change overnight unfortunately. Especially in winter, the low water temps, make the carp easy pickings as they are less active.
You know there is a bit of an issue ( near a venue I used to fish ) when local council & do-gooders decide to build an otter tunnel under an A road dual carriageway so they don't get run over.
We have all just got to enjoy what we've got, when we've still got it.... or fence it, and restock.
The problem is here to stay.
I understand that they will not nail every fish in the lake granted but what they will do is get most probably a bulk of the fish leaving a few fish that will become erratic and sporadic in the fishing the lake is big enough for some to survive
People's perception is different there is people on here that have witnessed it on there lake and people that haven't then there is people who have been involved in actual research studies over along period of time all have differing opinions and experiences
But imo this is not as simple as mother nature and they have always been here
No the have been reintroduced by man not nature but by humans they are also protected so that again is man interfering and protecting at all cost to the point where it affects people's livelihoods people's hobbies and even mental health if they are causing a nuisance they should be culled or trapped and re homed this is not from a personal agenda as I have fished with them before but on the rivers where fish can migrate up stream and down stream that's natural still man made but more natural
All I can do is hope they move and leave a good chunk of stock behind the lake needs a break nothing grows through past the cormorants so the change of any recovery is slim if not restocked
People's perception is different there is people on here that have witnessed it on there lake and people that haven't then there is people who have been involved in actual research studies over along period of time all have differing opinions and experiences
But imo this is not as simple as mother nature and they have always been here
No the have been reintroduced by man not nature but by humans they are also protected so that again is man interfering and protecting at all cost to the point where it affects people's livelihoods people's hobbies and even mental health if they are causing a nuisance they should be culled or trapped and re homed this is not from a personal agenda as I have fished with them before but on the rivers where fish can migrate up stream and down stream that's natural still man made but more natural
All I can do is hope they move and leave a good chunk of stock behind the lake needs a break nothing grows through past the cormorants so the change of any recovery is slim if not restocked
Apparently poison is the most effective way to get rid of your otter problem. Wildlife camera, few roach in the freezer and a bottle of strong poison.. A culvert on the river Severn near Shrewsbury was found to have been blocked with a number of dead otters which had all been poisoned with the same poison. Ace Ventura came to our mere with a list of names poking around a few years ago when it happened.
In reply to Post #34
Imagine how many Pike could have been killed
I have herd of much better and more discreet ways they can be dealt with. But alas they are protected so all theory of course.
Imagine how many Pike could have been killed
I have herd of much better and more discreet ways they can be dealt with. But alas they are protected so all theory of course.
In reply to Post #35
The "spiked" roach are put on the bank not in the water. The otters come round at the same time everyday hence the camera (for learning the routine). Literally pop the spiked roach on the bank where you've been baiting them, walk away and smoke a rollie then walk past pick the little devil up and you are away. Apparently.
The "spiked" roach are put on the bank not in the water. The otters come round at the same time everyday hence the camera (for learning the routine). Literally pop the spiked roach on the bank where you've been baiting them, walk away and smoke a rollie then walk past pick the little devil up and you are away. Apparently.