In reply to Post #30
Multi-coloured bellend
Multi-coloured bellend
In reply to Post #29
I think what that particular company lacks is the experience in bait making and applied knowledge of the ingredients. It's not a simple as “put everything good in and it can't be bad”. - if you empty the contents of your spice rack into a curry paste it might be revolting despite the individual ingredients working.
Some things work synergistically and others seem to mute each other. I've seen tge atttactor lists on that site and some things definitely are being added as a marketing ploy as oppose to them having a genuine function within the bait.
Also I'm not being funny but if you have 15+ attractor elements inside a single pop up how many of them are at the correct level to work optimally?
90% of claims in the bait industry really don't hold up well to educated scrutiny lol.
Anyway it's gone waaaay off topic from the “goo”.
You can actually make really good liquid blends yourself that drizzled on a pva mesh bag or over boilies makes a phenomenal difference.
Even the ones that in the base of it are surprising, together can work synergistically,
Tomato ketchup and sunflower oil. Between then you have sugars, fats, acid, colour, swap out sunflower for canola and I know of a few pay lake anglers in the US that if still competitions would likely beat me for mentioning that lol.
I think what that particular company lacks is the experience in bait making and applied knowledge of the ingredients. It's not a simple as “put everything good in and it can't be bad”. - if you empty the contents of your spice rack into a curry paste it might be revolting despite the individual ingredients working.
Some things work synergistically and others seem to mute each other. I've seen tge atttactor lists on that site and some things definitely are being added as a marketing ploy as oppose to them having a genuine function within the bait.
Also I'm not being funny but if you have 15+ attractor elements inside a single pop up how many of them are at the correct level to work optimally?
90% of claims in the bait industry really don't hold up well to educated scrutiny lol.
Anyway it's gone waaaay off topic from the “goo”.
You can actually make really good liquid blends yourself that drizzled on a pva mesh bag or over boilies makes a phenomenal difference.
Even the ones that in the base of it are surprising, together can work synergistically,
Tomato ketchup and sunflower oil. Between then you have sugars, fats, acid, colour, swap out sunflower for canola and I know of a few pay lake anglers in the US that if still competitions would likely beat me for mentioning that lol.
In reply to Post #32
Good points, the obvious gets ignored in favour of the marketing.
Good points, the obvious gets ignored in favour of the marketing.
In reply to Post #32
Back to the Goo
Just remembered, a mate of mine decided to have a go at making his own DIY Goo, after seeing it on Utube. He was confident as Fcuk and believed 100% his concoction was a game changer. Acouple of days later, all his multi-coloured Goo squirters were stiff as plaster of paris 
So, if price is a deciding factor, then head on over to Utube for a DIY tutorial
Costs a shilling to make
Back to the Goo
Just remembered, a mate of mine decided to have a go at making his own DIY Goo, after seeing it on Utube. He was confident as Fcuk and believed 100% his concoction was a game changer. Acouple of days later, all his multi-coloured Goo squirters were stiff as plaster of paris So, if price is a deciding factor, then head on over to Utube for a DIY tutorial
Costs a shilling to make
In reply to Post #30
well i never ....thats where ive been going wrong then
well i never ....thats where ive been going wrong then
In reply to Post #32
“Tomato ketchup and sunflower oil. Between then you have sugars, fats, acid, colour, swap out sunflower for canola and I know of a few pay lake anglers in the US that if still competitions would likely beat me for mentioning that lol.”
Ah, Mozzi! I live in North Carolina, the epicenter of paylake fishing is 200 miles west of me.
The paylake anglers have been relocating wild carp into small pressured ponds for generations. The money that changes hands in their competitions is significant ( packbait and puff tactics).
I assure you that their flavour approach is way, way more sophisticated than anything in Europe.
But of course, all that sophistication it isn't needed in the wild waters....
I do play with canola and sunflower oil, though😁😁😁
“Tomato ketchup and sunflower oil. Between then you have sugars, fats, acid, colour, swap out sunflower for canola and I know of a few pay lake anglers in the US that if still competitions would likely beat me for mentioning that lol.”
Ah, Mozzi! I live in North Carolina, the epicenter of paylake fishing is 200 miles west of me.
The paylake anglers have been relocating wild carp into small pressured ponds for generations. The money that changes hands in their competitions is significant ( packbait and puff tactics).
I assure you that their flavour approach is way, way more sophisticated than anything in Europe.
But of course, all that sophistication it isn't needed in the wild waters....
I do play with canola and sunflower oil, though😁😁😁
In reply to Post #36
Most US flavours are shocking, I had huge swathes of samples sent to me, but then I think most flavours are.
Virtually none are compounded to attract carp, despite what certain “bait legends” might have us believe
Most US flavours are shocking, I had huge swathes of samples sent to me, but then I think most flavours are.
Virtually none are compounded to attract carp, despite what certain “bait legends” might have us believe
In reply to Post #37
i do consultancy for a very large flavour manufacture.....quite interesting when they have a "sale"
i do consultancy for a very large flavour manufacture.....quite interesting when they have a "sale"
In reply to Post #36
Can you spill the beans and enlighten us?
Can you spill the beans and enlighten us?
I have never found it to make a clear difference on bottom baits./ pop-ups but on floaters I have seen it make a huge positive difference.
In reply to Post #39
All I can say Ynnek ( I am not a Paylake angler) is that the poor fish that live in those paylakes have to choose which pile of packbait, and the associated corn puff from probably 50 or 60 rods in a 2 or 3 acre lake. So the winners of each hourly pot are those who select the right attractor.
There are several local paylake flavour attractor sellers (One-on baits etc etc.)
It is nothing like our carp fishing.
All I can say Ynnek ( I am not a Paylake angler) is that the poor fish that live in those paylakes have to choose which pile of packbait, and the associated corn puff from probably 50 or 60 rods in a 2 or 3 acre lake. So the winners of each hourly pot are those who select the right attractor.
There are several local paylake flavour attractor sellers (One-on baits etc etc.)
It is nothing like our carp fishing.