In reply to Post #29
My mate who's in the army has also suggested looking at the Keela stuff. He said kit that isn't standard issue that British soldiers have to buy themselves is most often Keela and they rate it really highly.
My mate who's in the army has also suggested looking at the Keela stuff. He said kit that isn't standard issue that British soldiers have to buy themselves is most often Keela and they rate it really highly.
In reply to Post #27
Thank you.
Thank you.
In reply to Post #29
Can you post a link to the UK supplier please...
Can you post a link to the UK supplier please...
In reply to Post #31
I like Keela too, bombproof, well thought out gear, often looked over as they aren't high street enough for most. Although they sell to the public they mainly manufacture for the military and services. The Munro is a great waterproof jacket that works on the same principle as Paramo. I've had one for years, retired it eventually and just used it on site. Good range of trousers too, the Alpines are proper mountain gear. Well worth a look if you can either find a local supplier or maybe Amazon with their easy return/refund policy.
I like Keela too, bombproof, well thought out gear, often looked over as they aren't high street enough for most. Although they sell to the public they mainly manufacture for the military and services. The Munro is a great waterproof jacket that works on the same principle as Paramo. I've had one for years, retired it eventually and just used it on site. Good range of trousers too, the Alpines are proper mountain gear. Well worth a look if you can either find a local supplier or maybe Amazon with their easy return/refund policy.
In reply to Post #33
I think it may be same eBay supplier to the one I originally posted. The seller has looks to have lots of good gear for sale. Shame the gen 3 ECWCS parks seem to be too small for me that they have listed.
I think I've decided I really just need a waterproof and breathable outer shell without any form of lining. I've got plenty of options for layers underneath. I need it to be snag proof and robust and therefore it seems if I go for a US ECWCS then a gen 3 would suit best. That said the material on the gen 1 and 2 looks a bit tougher looking at the videos.
I think it may be same eBay supplier to the one I originally posted. The seller has looks to have lots of good gear for sale. Shame the gen 3 ECWCS parks seem to be too small for me that they have listed.
I think I've decided I really just need a waterproof and breathable outer shell without any form of lining. I've got plenty of options for layers underneath. I need it to be snag proof and robust and therefore it seems if I go for a US ECWCS then a gen 3 would suit best. That said the material on the gen 1 and 2 looks a bit tougher looking at the videos.
In reply to Post #33
I am presuming Squimp has purchased his jacket by now, it's been 24 hours and the one listed as mint has gone from yesterday.
As Simon said, it's the same seller as the one who was listing the jacket he posted a link too.
This one is a large. He has a medium too.
Simon, the material is much thicker on the woodland. Gen1/2. Much thicker and heavier as shown in that video. It actually makes a big weight difference. But remember my Gen2 has lasted 8 winters... And is bombproof. There is no guarantee that the Gen 3 will have the same reliability. I was willing to take the risk, and I prefer it. But it remains to be seen if it is as bombproof as the Gen 1/2.
The bloke in the video gives the Gen 3 a great review.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224339301786?hash=item343baa159a:g:XCcAAOSwv41gG9la
I am presuming Squimp has purchased his jacket by now, it's been 24 hours and the one listed as mint has gone from yesterday.
As Simon said, it's the same seller as the one who was listing the jacket he posted a link too.
This one is a large. He has a medium too.
Simon, the material is much thicker on the woodland. Gen1/2. Much thicker and heavier as shown in that video. It actually makes a big weight difference. But remember my Gen2 has lasted 8 winters... And is bombproof. There is no guarantee that the Gen 3 will have the same reliability. I was willing to take the risk, and I prefer it. But it remains to be seen if it is as bombproof as the Gen 1/2.
The bloke in the video gives the Gen 3 a great review.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224339301786?hash=item343baa159a:g:XCcAAOSwv41gG9la
In reply to Post #36
Looking at the video you linked earlier, to me the gen 1 appears to be a heavier duty and probably a better stand alone jacket. The gen 3 looks to be much thinner and just a shell which is more along the lines of what I was originally after and would give more options for use throughout the year with different layers under. It's hard to tell from the video how hard wearing the gen 3 material would be against abrasion etc, which I'd imagine the gen 1 being able to take in its stride.
I talk about abrasion resistance as I'd probably end up using it as an occasional waterproof jacket when I'm working on site too.
Looking at the video you linked earlier, to me the gen 1 appears to be a heavier duty and probably a better stand alone jacket. The gen 3 looks to be much thinner and just a shell which is more along the lines of what I was originally after and would give more options for use throughout the year with different layers under. It's hard to tell from the video how hard wearing the gen 3 material would be against abrasion etc, which I'd imagine the gen 1 being able to take in its stride.
I talk about abrasion resistance as I'd probably end up using it as an occasional waterproof jacket when I'm working on site too.
In reply to Post #36
Bang on.
Said jacket should arrive in the next couple of days.
Size might be an issue (might be too big) and as for the longevity of the material - only time will tell. As Tcarper said, the jacket looks almost unused.
I'm used to buying quality mountaineering jackets (in sales!) - so paying (only) 90quid for this Gen 3 jacket seemed like a risk worth taking.....
Only one problem, my fishing mate and I have a long-standing pact that we would never, ever wear anything camo. So he might never speak/talk to me again !
Bang on.
Said jacket should arrive in the next couple of days.
Size might be an issue (might be too big) and as for the longevity of the material - only time will tell. As Tcarper said, the jacket looks almost unused.
I'm used to buying quality mountaineering jackets (in sales!) - so paying (only) 90quid for this Gen 3 jacket seemed like a risk worth taking.....
Only one problem, my fishing mate and I have a long-standing pact that we would never, ever wear anything camo. So he might never speak/talk to me again !
In reply to Post #38
👍🤣🤣 I have to say I'm with you on camo. I've always tried to avoid it which is sort of putting me off all the ECWCS variants. The only think I've got that's camo is my fortis/snugpak sleeping bag and that's only because I got a good deal on it otherwise that would have just been the plain green one.
Let us know what you think when the gen 3 turns up. The gen 3 camo pattern is at least more subtle looking than the woodland camo on the gen 1/2's.
👍🤣🤣 I have to say I'm with you on camo. I've always tried to avoid it which is sort of putting me off all the ECWCS variants. The only think I've got that's camo is my fortis/snugpak sleeping bag and that's only because I got a good deal on it otherwise that would have just been the plain green one.
Let us know what you think when the gen 3 turns up. The gen 3 camo pattern is at least more subtle looking than the woodland camo on the gen 1/2's.
In reply to Post #39
Tullahoma Gen 3 jacket arrived.
It's unworn.
Very lightweight goretex shell jacket.
I like (!) the understated digital camo.
No pockets but 2 zipped slits to access pockets on inner layer.
Integrated foldaway adjustable hood.
Good 2 way front zip with Velcro over flap.
Simple Velcro cuffs.
Drawcord hem. It's quite a short cut -hip length.
Large regular is almost ‘square'. I'm 6ft and thin. Arms good length, body a bit big.
First Impression is that it's £89 well spent.
Thanks to all those who posted on this thread - it's been really helpful.
Tullahoma Gen 3 jacket arrived.
It's unworn.
Very lightweight goretex shell jacket.
I like (!) the understated digital camo.
No pockets but 2 zipped slits to access pockets on inner layer.
Integrated foldaway adjustable hood.
Good 2 way front zip with Velcro over flap.
Simple Velcro cuffs.
Drawcord hem. It's quite a short cut -hip length.
Large regular is almost ‘square'. I'm 6ft and thin. Arms good length, body a bit big.
First Impression is that it's £89 well spent.
Thanks to all those who posted on this thread - it's been really helpful.
In reply to Post #40
Nice one. Sounds like you got a great bargain👍 I'm still on the lookout. I'm 6'1” and about 14.5st so think an XL is prob right size for me bearing in mind I'd want option to layer up under it. If you get a chance would you mind doing a chest measurement for me of your one. Cheers
Nice one. Sounds like you got a great bargain👍 I'm still on the lookout. I'm 6'1” and about 14.5st so think an XL is prob right size for me bearing in mind I'd want option to layer up under it. If you get a chance would you mind doing a chest measurement for me of your one. Cheers
In reply to Post #41
With the zip closed, pit to pit 28”
With the zip closed, pit to pit 28”
In reply to Post #42
Great - thanks for the info. That sounds fair bit larger than I was expecting. I reckon I'd get away with a large then rather than xl.
Great - thanks for the info. That sounds fair bit larger than I was expecting. I reckon I'd get away with a large then rather than xl.
In reply to Post #43
Any tips for washing and reproofing an ECWCS Gen1.
Any tips for washing and reproofing an ECWCS Gen1.