In reply to Post #27
Maybe the guy wants to fish a *feeding spot* that's at 120yds?
Cut the guy some slack will ya. He asked some specific questions, just answer them without putting your bit in.
The other thing about long range fishing is that it can be an (((edge))) and a distinct advantage over other anglers that can't get to the fish, whereas the long range chap can and will be able to capitalise on suchness, be they well known holdup areas where you always see the fish nutting out without abandon well out the reach of most, or spots you've created where it dissects a route they like to use.
Maybe the guy wants to fish a *feeding spot* that's at 120yds?
Cut the guy some slack will ya. He asked some specific questions, just answer them without putting your bit in.
The other thing about long range fishing is that it can be an (((edge))) and a distinct advantage over other anglers that can't get to the fish, whereas the long range chap can and will be able to capitalise on suchness, be they well known holdup areas where you always see the fish nutting out without abandon well out the reach of most, or spots you've created where it dissects a route they like to use.
In reply to Post #31
Thank you, TeeCee. My lake does have casts of 120 yards, and that is sometimes to reach where the fish are, so I was just trying to find out what is needed to get that distance as previously I have not been able to fish at such ranges.
Thank you, TeeCee. My lake does have casts of 120 yards, and that is sometimes to reach where the fish are, so I was just trying to find out what is needed to get that distance as previously I have not been able to fish at such ranges.
In reply to Post #32
No worries 👍
These sorts of threads can get messy for some reason which I can't grasp, I don't know...it's weird.
It's definitely a great tool to have in your armoury. There's a well know place near me, it's got to be 140'ish yds to the middle from the narrowest points, anyway, after watching what the other guys were doing, that being casting to about 100yds max, watching the water, you could clearly see them troffing in the middle, all out of the way of the anglers rigs...what to do?
Within maybe 15 mins to half an hour I've had a ripping take after casting to the middle. The guy that waded in to land my fish (more like suss my rig out) later told me he'd been there all weekend and only one fish had been out, the place was packed like sardines. Had another 2 or 3 (memory is vague) and did one after a few hours. I'm no super duper angler with super secret rigs and bait, in fact, I'm quite happy to say I'm absolutely s_hit.
No worries 👍
These sorts of threads can get messy for some reason which I can't grasp, I don't know...it's weird.
It's definitely a great tool to have in your armoury. There's a well know place near me, it's got to be 140'ish yds to the middle from the narrowest points, anyway, after watching what the other guys were doing, that being casting to about 100yds max, watching the water, you could clearly see them troffing in the middle, all out of the way of the anglers rigs...what to do?
Within maybe 15 mins to half an hour I've had a ripping take after casting to the middle. The guy that waded in to land my fish (more like suss my rig out) later told me he'd been there all weekend and only one fish had been out, the place was packed like sardines. Had another 2 or 3 (memory is vague) and did one after a few hours. I'm no super duper angler with super secret rigs and bait, in fact, I'm quite happy to say I'm absolutely s_hit.
In reply to Post #33
But it all comes back to technique. Google maps is a great tool these days - I remember way back in the day not being able to hit a spot from the Spit swim on Fordwich, with 2.75lb Tricast ER8-15's, daiwa Emblem 5000t,10lb Big Game line, 30lb Amnesia leader and 3oz Zipp leads. A friend gave me some pointers, and with a following wind I could just about get there. Just measured the casts, and the spot i could get to before he tweaked my casting is 103m, the spot i could get to after is 119m
People were casting big distances before all the modern rods and reels - look at what Maylin (for example) was doing on Harefield.
Sorting your technique is the cheapest way of putting on yards!
But it all comes back to technique. Google maps is a great tool these days - I remember way back in the day not being able to hit a spot from the Spit swim on Fordwich, with 2.75lb Tricast ER8-15's, daiwa Emblem 5000t,10lb Big Game line, 30lb Amnesia leader and 3oz Zipp leads. A friend gave me some pointers, and with a following wind I could just about get there. Just measured the casts, and the spot i could get to before he tweaked my casting is 103m, the spot i could get to after is 119m
People were casting big distances before all the modern rods and reels - look at what Maylin (for example) was doing on Harefield.
Sorting your technique is the cheapest way of putting on yards!
In reply to Post #34
They may well have been hitting biggish ranges way back when, but the line was crazy thin, so thin, I'd go as far as saying outright dangerous for the fishes safety.
I've always been very sceptical of the claimed ranges too. How did they know how far they were casting back then, 'coz a mate said the 3rd bar was at 140's? I don't know...
I'm of the opinion that for simply casting at say 150's repeatedly, it's a combination of good technique, fast taper rod, 5500 or above size reel and a decent casting line at a sensible dia. Good technique will only get you so far.
They may well have been hitting biggish ranges way back when, but the line was crazy thin, so thin, I'd go as far as saying outright dangerous for the fishes safety.
I've always been very sceptical of the claimed ranges too. How did they know how far they were casting back then, 'coz a mate said the 3rd bar was at 140's? I don't know...
I'm of the opinion that for simply casting at say 150's repeatedly, it's a combination of good technique, fast taper rod, 5500 or above size reel and a decent casting line at a sensible dia. Good technique will only get you so far.
In reply to Post #35
Yes, I think its a combo of both. You can't go one without the other. Without the right technique, it won't get you anywhere not matter of what gear you use, and then on the other hand, you do need the right gear to be able to cast out at range! Though Im thinking that technique is more important than gear i think from what everyone has been saying, not just on this thread.
Yes, I think its a combo of both. You can't go one without the other. Without the right technique, it won't get you anywhere not matter of what gear you use, and then on the other hand, you do need the right gear to be able to cast out at range! Though Im thinking that technique is more important than gear i think from what everyone has been saying, not just on this thread.
In reply to Post #35
Yet strangely, we didn't lose many fish?
I can remember pumping back fish from range, covered in weed (captain CAVEMAAAAAAAN!) with 10lb line - lets face it, you wont break 10lb line with the pressure from a rod unless you cut off on a bar/mussel/etc. That said, i use 15lb/.35mm mono and 20lb x-line, because i can now and there's no advantage to thinner lines. But if i had to to hit a spot, and the rules allowed, i would happily.
If you're bored, have a play with google earth, you'll find some of the chucks are what they said!
Yet strangely, we didn't lose many fish?
I can remember pumping back fish from range, covered in weed (captain CAVEMAAAAAAAN!) with 10lb line - lets face it, you wont break 10lb line with the pressure from a rod unless you cut off on a bar/mussel/etc. That said, i use 15lb/.35mm mono and 20lb x-line, because i can now and there's no advantage to thinner lines. But if i had to to hit a spot, and the rules allowed, i would happily.
If you're bored, have a play with google earth, you'll find some of the chucks are what they said!
In reply to Post #34
Agree, technique is king and the fast taper rod, reel and line combination Tcee refers to is to be considered when the caster has the technique, the wrong rod choice may hamper the learning process.
Agree, technique is king and the fast taper rod, reel and line combination Tcee refers to is to be considered when the caster has the technique, the wrong rod choice may hamper the learning process.
In reply to Post #37
Back in the day those lines were under rated anyway and can remember someone testing what sylcast claimed to be 8lb was nearer 14lb.
Back in the day those lines were under rated anyway and can remember someone testing what sylcast claimed to be 8lb was nearer 14lb.
Without the technique you won't be able to cast a fast rod properly, not a chance.
People need to learn to reach the limit of what they have first to know why it is they actually need to change, not just change because it's what Terry Edmonds uses or says casts furthest.
People have been casting 180+ for a long time, because they mastered the technique
People need to learn to reach the limit of what they have first to know why it is they actually need to change, not just change because it's what Terry Edmonds uses or says casts furthest.
People have been casting 180+ for a long time, because they mastered the technique
In reply to Post #39
I used 8lb sylcast back in the day, used the 11lb as a leader, tough as old boots never let me down.
Had to use thin line as the reels were so small
I used 8lb sylcast back in the day, used the 11lb as a leader, tough as old boots never let me down.
Had to use thin line as the reels were so small
In reply to Post #41
55' or 57's?
55' or 57's?
In reply to Post #37
I duknow, I lost my fair share due to using crappy Maxima, the worst of the lot was Bayer Perlon...oh my god.
Big Game deffo changed the game, as did XT (was it XT the one up from Big Game?) when there was nasty snags about.
I duknow, I lost my fair share due to using crappy Maxima, the worst of the lot was Bayer Perlon...oh my god.
Big Game deffo changed the game, as did XT (was it XT the one up from Big Game?) when there was nasty snags about.
Slycast was the best around a 2.5 decades ago. Daiwa Sensor and a shock leader was alright. Since then for me Gardner HD is hard to beat.
In reply to Post #41
9lb they didn't do an 8lb
9lb they didn't do an 8lb