In reply to Post #15
I wasn't impressed by the pioneer when I saw it little difference to my Hog. My T1 Camo is a superb bit of kit.
I wasn't impressed by the pioneer when I saw it little difference to my Hog. My T1 Camo is a superb bit of kit.
Agreed with some of the posts ... The Pioneer was over rated when it first came out ... why anyone would buy this design nowadays baffles me
In reply to Post #28
. . mines been 'snap free' since 2010 . . .just need to open it with care!
I've seen the Pio 100 set up in a shop . . .its designed for hobbits and is therefore ridiculous . . .
I've also seen the Pio 150 on the bank and for me the size / footprint / head height is perfect . . .a roomy, 1 man session shelter with a permanent twin skin . . .what's not to like?
Totally agree with you Rob . .
Who cares whether its outdated - the BMW E46 M3 still looks better than the outgoing F30 and the new G20 variants . . .its not faster or lighter or smarter but its now a classic and is therefore desirable . . .
. . mines been 'snap free' since 2010 . . .just need to open it with care!
I've seen the Pio 100 set up in a shop . . .its designed for hobbits and is therefore ridiculous . . .
I've also seen the Pio 150 on the bank and for me the size / footprint / head height is perfect . . .a roomy, 1 man session shelter with a permanent twin skin . . .what's not to like?
Totally agree with you Rob . .
Who cares whether its outdated - the BMW E46 M3 still looks better than the outgoing F30 and the new G20 variants . . .its not faster or lighter or smarter but its now a classic and is therefore desirable . . .
In reply to Post #33
In reply to Post #32
it was a good alternative if you wanted a full bivvy but didn't like kneeling to piece together the pram hoods
of the day. That was my reason to get one.
it was a good alternative if you wanted a full bivvy but didn't like kneeling to piece together the pram hoods
of the day. That was my reason to get one.
In reply to Post #35
so where can we get a 150 and wrap everywhere selling 100 ut I cant find a deal on 150 with wrap other than at Carp scene which is in Derby and collection only so too far for me but £699.98
so where can we get a 150 and wrap everywhere selling 100 ut I cant find a deal on 150 with wrap other than at Carp scene which is in Derby and collection only so too far for me but £699.98
In reply to Post #34
. . .love that graff Paul . . .maybe its an age ting but nostalgia is important to Gen X . . !
. . .love that graff Paul . . .maybe its an age ting but nostalgia is important to Gen X . . !
had convinced myself by bedtime yesterday that I didn't need one....now getting tempted all over again.... 
In reply to Post #32
it baffles me why people think it was over rated
But then again I owned and spent god knows how many hours in every type of extreme weather under one to me it was one of the best designed quality perfect size shaped shelters ever made I could it put it up and down very fast
other than missing a rear vent to me it was the perfect shelter and dont think my Tempest bivvy is an improvement due to the height
Im talking about the Original pioneer AND NOT the Ultra light version that I called the Ultracrap
it baffles me why people think it was over rated
But then again I owned and spent god knows how many hours in every type of extreme weather under one to me it was one of the best designed quality perfect size shaped shelters ever made I could it put it up and down very fast
other than missing a rear vent to me it was the perfect shelter and dont think my Tempest bivvy is an improvement due to the height
Im talking about the Original pioneer AND NOT the Ultra light version that I called the Ultracrap
In reply to Post #38
Get one mate. Proper bit of kit.
One of my pals has a Tempest and he much prefers my 100 Pioneer. Made of proper material, goes up in a jiffy. I can get my two large dogs in mine plus all my gear and it's still not crampt.
Get one mate. Proper bit of kit.
One of my pals has a Tempest and he much prefers my 100 Pioneer. Made of proper material, goes up in a jiffy. I can get my two large dogs in mine plus all my gear and it's still not crampt.
In reply to Post #34
I must of bought pretty much nearly every design of shelter available between 2000 & 2012 and no-one will ever convince me the Pioneer was one of the best ... even back then. However, i did like the shape and I loved how the skull cap fitted
I must of bought pretty much nearly every design of shelter available between 2000 & 2012 and no-one will ever convince me the Pioneer was one of the best ... even back then. However, i did like the shape and I loved how the skull cap fitted
In reply to Post #41
I am not trying to convince you it was the best designed shelter ever made ?
just like your not trying to convince me it was over rated ! thats because opinions are like BUM HOLES
WE ALL HAVE ONE
I am not trying to convince you it was the best designed shelter ever made ?
just like your not trying to convince me it was over rated ! thats because opinions are like BUM HOLES
WE ALL HAVE ONE
In reply to Post #34
can we all please note that if look closely despite the lake being partially frozen.
I am fishing with the sides rolled back. lol
in winter you can choose to set it up low, get right to the back, and its like being in a cave.
something sorely missing in the Tempest 100T last week in a storm. I had to get my Goretex pack away out and drape
it over me at 2am when the wind was swirling rain in.
can we all please note that if look closely despite the lake being partially frozen.
I am fishing with the sides rolled back. lol
in winter you can choose to set it up low, get right to the back, and its like being in a cave.
something sorely missing in the Tempest 100T last week in a storm. I had to get my Goretex pack away out and drape
it over me at 2am when the wind was swirling rain in.
In reply to Post #43
Fck Corona all shops are closed here and no carp Den Bosch in January 2021
Pioneer with permanent wrap option is what attracts me and the size is ideal for me, on the other hand it is not a full wrap and some other bivvies on my list have an inner capsule option and a skullcap or a full over wrap for the colder months.
Fck Corona all shops are closed here and no carp Den Bosch in January 2021
Pioneer with permanent wrap option is what attracts me and the size is ideal for me, on the other hand it is not a full wrap and some other bivvies on my list have an inner capsule option and a skullcap or a full over wrap for the colder months.
In reply to Post #27
Hi I just picked up a green pioneer 150 £475 (parkfield).and the 150 skullcap £139 (Johnson Ross)
Hi I just picked up a green pioneer 150 £475 (parkfield).and the 150 skullcap £139 (Johnson Ross)