In reply to Post #30
Sat in the bivvie right now, ( had the snooker and the Barca game on) looking at the pops and waffters, they look and smell rank, that's after I chucked a bit of booster on them.😟
Sat in the bivvie right now, ( had the snooker and the Barca game on) looking at the pops and waffters, they look and smell rank, that's after I chucked a bit of booster on them.😟
There's no doubting that b5 is a great bait. I used it for quite a while and the quality of the boilies was never in question. However the pop ups are dreadful. They struggle to hold up any big hook rigs and they wash out so fast that I expect most of the time you are fishing with little more than a visual attractor. To give you an example, I fished a winter day session using the b5 Fluros. It was literally just 8am till 4pm. The water temp was freezing. When I brought in the rigs, both pop ups had absolutely zero smell, right through them. Ok so you could argue that's a good thing as they leaked out attraction. But if they can do this in eight hours in freezing water temps, good luck using them in summer for 24 hours. I strongly suggest your own cork balls if using b5 as the basemix is first rate.
In reply to Post #32
The Black Snail is even worse. In this day and age they should be able to come up with something that's not dust or ball based, look at the quality of the other pops and waffters out there from certain hookbait specialists.
The Black Snail is even worse. In this day and age they should be able to come up with something that's not dust or ball based, look at the quality of the other pops and waffters out there from certain hookbait specialists.
In reply to Post #32
B5 has stood the test of time like few other baits, but I don't see many people using it at the moment, quite a few seem, in fact, to have switched to baitworks, for whatever reason.
B5 has stood the test of time like few other baits, but I don't see many people using it at the moment, quite a few seem, in fact, to have switched to baitworks, for whatever reason.
In reply to Post #34
Price.
Essential do take the piss a bit with the so called winterised version, no need for it in my opinion. It smacks of a marketing scam for orders at the most quiet part of the year whilst still keeping the big spring sales with a so called spring/summer/autumn bait.
Price.
Essential do take the piss a bit with the so called winterised version, no need for it in my opinion. It smacks of a marketing scam for orders at the most quiet part of the year whilst still keeping the big spring sales with a so called spring/summer/autumn bait.
In reply to Post #35
No, not price......Essential are pretty cheap when bought in bulk, or they certainly used to be.
No, not price......Essential are pretty cheap when bought in bulk, or they certainly used to be.
In reply to Post #35
I agree on the winterised piss take though....what is it, just the same minus the 10mk of salmon oil? Mind you, Mike knows a lot more than me about bait!
I agree on the winterised piss take though....what is it, just the same minus the 10mk of salmon oil? Mind you, Mike knows a lot more than me about bait!
In reply to Post #32
I agree their flouros are poor. I find the cork dust pops and wafter fine however.
Sorry for the thread derail but does anyone know if the BW 12mm tippers will hold up a delicate popup rig?
I agree their flouros are poor. I find the cork dust pops and wafter fine however.
Sorry for the thread derail but does anyone know if the BW 12mm tippers will hold up a delicate popup rig?
In reply to Post #37
He might know more than you and me but he'll never know as much about bait as the Carp do, it's a ploy to shift more bait.
He might know more than you and me but he'll never know as much about bait as the Carp do, it's a ploy to shift more bait.
In reply to Post #36
Are you sure?
Look on the web around Christmas for posts about Baitworks sale, I think I paid 4.80 a KG whereas Essential will have you believe you can only use their offer on the winterised stuff till the end of March then they want you back for more once the suns out, plenty fall for it.
We dont get winters like we used to so it's not really relevant these days.
Buy B5 at the winterised offer, chuck the baits in a bucket and coat them in the dip and a touch of Salmon oil and vacuum pack them, good for 9 months of the year, leave a few KG uncoated if you're doing winter sessions or just leave the oil out.
Are you sure?
Look on the web around Christmas for posts about Baitworks sale, I think I paid 4.80 a KG whereas Essential will have you believe you can only use their offer on the winterised stuff till the end of March then they want you back for more once the suns out, plenty fall for it.
We dont get winters like we used to so it's not really relevant these days.
Buy B5 at the winterised offer, chuck the baits in a bucket and coat them in the dip and a touch of Salmon oil and vacuum pack them, good for 9 months of the year, leave a few KG uncoated if you're doing winter sessions or just leave the oil out.
In reply to Post #26
Why would you buy 100kg of a bait you hadn't bought a few kg to test out?
Why would you buy 100kg of a bait you hadn't bought a few kg to test out?
In reply to Post #40
Maybe, but not for me. I like my bait fresh.
Maybe, but not for me. I like my bait fresh.
In reply to Post #41
Because I know the bait itself is ok, it's the pops, waffters and QC I question, the volume bought is irrelevant one pot or a hundred the potted baits are crap, 5kg or 100kg the QC is the same.
Without Covid the 100kg bought in December would of gone by now but luckily it will now take me till November/December so I will likely go back to Essential.
Theres also the way you use a bait in my view, it's not always about using it as the hook bait, that's why the Baitworks blurb about attracting snails etc was a big part of why I went with it.
Anyway buying a few KG to try out tells you nothing unless you're on a water rammed with starving fish, that's a day ticket, makes me itch just thinking about that
If you're fishing the total opposite then it's about ingredients, history, catch results, the sort if waters it does well on and the grapevine, you'll have a gut feeling for what works based on what you have used and what you know.
Because I know the bait itself is ok, it's the pops, waffters and QC I question, the volume bought is irrelevant one pot or a hundred the potted baits are crap, 5kg or 100kg the QC is the same.
Without Covid the 100kg bought in December would of gone by now but luckily it will now take me till November/December so I will likely go back to Essential.
Theres also the way you use a bait in my view, it's not always about using it as the hook bait, that's why the Baitworks blurb about attracting snails etc was a big part of why I went with it.
Anyway buying a few KG to try out tells you nothing unless you're on a water rammed with starving fish, that's a day ticket, makes me itch just thinking about that
If you're fishing the total opposite then it's about ingredients, history, catch results, the sort if waters it does well on and the grapevine, you'll have a gut feeling for what works based on what you have used and what you know.
In reply to Post #1
I have tried baitworks because I fell in that trap of a cheap deal. To be honest I will agree with other comments that the hookbaits were just useless and I ended up making my own. I would also say that my catch rates suffered so I gave the last few kg away. I think that many of those companies who charge 4/5 quid a kilo are very much the same and although I tried hard to like baitworks i just never felt confident using it and never had a bite over the winter. Never had a sniff on the scent from hell either despite having a friend who has done well on them.
I have tried baitworks because I fell in that trap of a cheap deal. To be honest I will agree with other comments that the hookbaits were just useless and I ended up making my own. I would also say that my catch rates suffered so I gave the last few kg away. I think that many of those companies who charge 4/5 quid a kilo are very much the same and although I tried hard to like baitworks i just never felt confident using it and never had a bite over the winter. Never had a sniff on the scent from hell either despite having a friend who has done well on them.
Up until this thread, I don't think I had actually seen any negative comments concerning Baitworks.
I've never used them myself. But I do know someone who's catch rate has gone up since switching over to them a little while back.
I've never used them myself. But I do know someone who's catch rate has gone up since switching over to them a little while back.