In reply to Post #277
As it is now St Piran's Day, maybe give your evidence of the 80 plus waters that you say have been affected by otters to younger guns to get your stuff on social media mate?
So are you saying there are no venues - except the one's you know are fenced - that are worth fishing now in kernow?
As it is now St Piran's Day, maybe give your evidence of the 80 plus waters that you say have been affected by otters to younger guns to get your stuff on social media mate?
So are you saying there are no venues - except the one's you know are fenced - that are worth fishing now in kernow?
In reply to Post #279
I've joined the angling trust today and parted with my £29
As some of us have said angling needs one voice and unless an alternative emerges the angling trust looks the only hope currently
the only way to have a voice in the angling trust is to join it
Rob Hughes has been appointed angling trust carp consultant & i think he has credibility
see his announcement on following link
https://youtu.be/UV_keLApBPo
they have helped secure a 3 rod licence, cormorant legislation and now campaigning for control of unregulated release of rehabilitated otters
the other thing i wanted to mention was twitter as I've started following groups both for and against otters, angling etc.
this has meant i have already exchanged tweets with nature lovers who love their otters...its really important we anglers maintain empathy with these people and what I've found (apart from the odd anti I've come across) is most people will listen to your opinion. what we dont need is an aggressive approach that does nothing but turn more people against angling. I believe that over time more people will be persuaded that in certain areas otters need to be controlled.
I've joined the angling trust today and parted with my £29
As some of us have said angling needs one voice and unless an alternative emerges the angling trust looks the only hope currently
the only way to have a voice in the angling trust is to join it
Rob Hughes has been appointed angling trust carp consultant & i think he has credibility
see his announcement on following link
https://youtu.be/UV_keLApBPo
they have helped secure a 3 rod licence, cormorant legislation and now campaigning for control of unregulated release of rehabilitated otters
the other thing i wanted to mention was twitter as I've started following groups both for and against otters, angling etc.
this has meant i have already exchanged tweets with nature lovers who love their otters...its really important we anglers maintain empathy with these people and what I've found (apart from the odd anti I've come across) is most people will listen to your opinion. what we dont need is an aggressive approach that does nothing but turn more people against angling. I believe that over time more people will be persuaded that in certain areas otters need to be controlled.
In reply to Post #296
Good for you mate,
Guess otter stuff has run it's course on here....... for now .
Well done with your 8 posts btw
Good for you mate,
Guess otter stuff has run it's course on here....... for now .
Well done with your 8 posts btw
In reply to Post #297
Maybe not completely run its course?? https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/577582
Maybe not completely run its course?? https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/577582
It will go more or less the same way as badgers, give them protection and when they get to such numbers they are forced to turn to prey other than that is normal to them, implement culls, usually at great financial costs, not to mention the detrimental affects to other species. some of which may never recover.
it's a result of city folk telling country folk how to run things.
I imagine most of you will now have seen video evidence of otters killing geese in the center of Wroxham on a busy saturday surrounded by holidaymakers, not the shy secretive creature it once was eh??
a cynical person might think it has seen humans before, and knows no fear of them.
signatures wont stop otters.
and yes I have lost well over a 100k worth of leney stock to almost 35lb in a lot less time than it takes to build a fence. in addition to scores of double figure tench,bream not far off the record, pike over 30lb, and roach and rudd that any angler would be thrilled to land.
then they moved onto the other wildlife, mussels, amphibians, songbirds, wildfowl, even swans are not immune from them.
they kill for fun rather than necessity, until an area is devoid of life, which probably went a long way to their previous reduction in numbers.
the clowns that made this happen are the same bunch who want wolves and bears, lynx buffalo and [insert latest crackpot idea here] into this small overcrowded island.
it's a result of city folk telling country folk how to run things.
I imagine most of you will now have seen video evidence of otters killing geese in the center of Wroxham on a busy saturday surrounded by holidaymakers, not the shy secretive creature it once was eh??
a cynical person might think it has seen humans before, and knows no fear of them.
signatures wont stop otters.
and yes I have lost well over a 100k worth of leney stock to almost 35lb in a lot less time than it takes to build a fence. in addition to scores of double figure tench,bream not far off the record, pike over 30lb, and roach and rudd that any angler would be thrilled to land.
then they moved onto the other wildlife, mussels, amphibians, songbirds, wildfowl, even swans are not immune from them.
they kill for fun rather than necessity, until an area is devoid of life, which probably went a long way to their previous reduction in numbers.
the clowns that made this happen are the same bunch who want wolves and bears, lynx buffalo and [insert latest crackpot idea here] into this small overcrowded island.
In reply to Post #300
Yep....what I said years ago.,all come true..got a released single Beaver in my local river,done loads of damage in one area already ...
Thanks to Mr Henk cattle breeder ,himself..my local waters will never recover,nor will the ecosystems..my evenings involve daily checking of two venues,fence,mesh ,electric..if it wasn't for me these lakes are dead ,finito
So last week ,fishing my elderly friends lake,a place I have loved since aged 14,...I'm the only one allowed to fish it now,plop,bubbles ,leaping fish ...I shook my head,packed up,came home ,wondering how long those remaining few carp have left ,are they dead,ripped up on the bank ,body parts missing ..
The owner ,my friend,she's 85,I have not ,will not tell her..
Yep....what I said years ago.,all come true..got a released single Beaver in my local river,done loads of damage in one area already ...
Thanks to Mr Henk cattle breeder ,himself..my local waters will never recover,nor will the ecosystems..my evenings involve daily checking of two venues,fence,mesh ,electric..if it wasn't for me these lakes are dead ,finito
So last week ,fishing my elderly friends lake,a place I have loved since aged 14,...I'm the only one allowed to fish it now,plop,bubbles ,leaping fish ...I shook my head,packed up,came home ,wondering how long those remaining few carp have left ,are they dead,ripped up on the bank ,body parts missing ..
The owner ,my friend,she's 85,I have not ,will not tell her..