In reply to Post #13
Why bother indeed. I have also looked at, and am currently using 2 herbs in my bait. One at 70g and the other at 20. This is where I started looking at the aromatic compounds within them and the potential benefit as a long term addition. Results with one at an elevated level have been very good and as scozza said , an ingredient is only good if you notice the difference when it's removed.....and this one is for me anyway a game changer.
Why bother indeed. I have also looked at, and am currently using 2 herbs in my bait. One at 70g and the other at 20. This is where I started looking at the aromatic compounds within them and the potential benefit as a long term addition. Results with one at an elevated level have been very good and as scozza said , an ingredient is only good if you notice the difference when it's removed.....and this one is for me anyway a game changer.
Ive never used essential oils which makes me think....how essential are they?
In reply to Post #16
quite a few of the ingredients fall into the phytonutrients food groups & like you mention, there seems to be some very interesting substances that seem to have medicinal benefits.
was quite the eye opener when I first started looking into phyto's & noticed how many effective carp attractors appeared in the different lists - fenugreek, tumeric, NBA, eugenol... the royal society of chemistry website seemed to have a great explainer.
anyone ever use Carroway oil?
quite a few of the ingredients fall into the phytonutrients food groups & like you mention, there seems to be some very interesting substances that seem to have medicinal benefits.
was quite the eye opener when I first started looking into phyto's & noticed how many effective carp attractors appeared in the different lists - fenugreek, tumeric, NBA, eugenol... the royal society of chemistry website seemed to have a great explainer.
anyone ever use Carroway oil?
In reply to Post #18
You're on target.
You're on target.
In reply to Post #18
It's become a fascinating subject for me and there's one element in particular that's opened my eyes, I included it as a potential digestive aid but after using it for a few day sessions oddly it's had a profound effect on carps behaviour when feeding. They seem very calm and free of stress and even the bites have gone from screamers to a slow lift on the bobbin and the rod tip nodding, like they have no idea they have been hooked. Upon further investigation this element is reported to have an ability to calm fish, especially when being handled when being transferred when breeding.
It's become a fascinating subject for me and there's one element in particular that's opened my eyes, I included it as a potential digestive aid but after using it for a few day sessions oddly it's had a profound effect on carps behaviour when feeding. They seem very calm and free of stress and even the bites have gone from screamers to a slow lift on the bobbin and the rod tip nodding, like they have no idea they have been hooked. Upon further investigation this element is reported to have an ability to calm fish, especially when being handled when being transferred when breeding.
In reply to Post #20
Seems like they smoked some greens
Seems like they smoked some greens
In reply to Post #21
Oh, I've just made that connection
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Oh, I've just made that connection
Anyone used aniseed essential oil
In reply to Post #20
I feel we have read some similar papers. Would this ingredient happen to work even better with the inclusion of another substance too?
If it is the one I think it is then one of the medicinal benefits I read was that it is actually an appetite stimulator. I read the calming effects, I wonder if there are some anesthetic affects & the fish aren't sure they are hooked as they can't feel the hook?
I feel we have read some similar papers. Would this ingredient happen to work even better with the inclusion of another substance too?
If it is the one I think it is then one of the medicinal benefits I read was that it is actually an appetite stimulator. I read the calming effects, I wonder if there are some anesthetic affects & the fish aren't sure they are hooked as they can't feel the hook?
In reply to Post #21
read a paper recently where fish were exposed to sativa cannabis - seems that tey didn't like it & it wasn't good for them.
read a paper recently where fish were exposed to sativa cannabis - seems that tey didn't like it & it wasn't good for them.
In reply to Post #25
I was fooling around
But just wonder if it that behavior is a returning phenomenon (I mean: do you have al year around or just during summer?)
I was fooling around
But just wonder if it that behavior is a returning phenomenon (I mean: do you have al year around or just during summer?)
In reply to Post #17
We've obviously been getting it all wrong then...
We've obviously been getting it all wrong then...
In reply to Post #20
Clove oil. Used to kill fish. Shuts the gills down
Clove oil. Used to kill fish. Shuts the gills down
In reply to Post #28
Partially correct. That is very high doses. In lower doses it is used to calm fish down for procedures. It's basically anaesthetic for fish
Partially correct. That is very high doses. In lower doses it is used to calm fish down for procedures. It's basically anaesthetic for fish
In reply to Post #28
eugenol - in high doses it's bad for them - in smaller doses it is a) a very good attractor b) calming & used in transporting fish when used with small amounts of salt.
eugenol - in high doses it's bad for them - in smaller doses it is a) a very good attractor b) calming & used in transporting fish when used with small amounts of salt.