Another Levilite ELS user here. I too used the Helium 3.8 Sim but this year changed it to a 7.5. While the 3.8 is great I found with a thinner sleeping bag I could leave the 7.5 lightly inflated which is more comfy than a harder 3.8, but were splitting hairs.
My original purchase of the 3.8 was because being 6' and a foetal position side sleeper I often find my knees get painful resting on the side bars of the bed because the mattress sinks slightly leaving the bars raised like a rim. The SIM takes up that space nicely, the 3.8 meant the frame padding was enough, the 7.5 means I'm slightly above it.
My original purchase of the 3.8 was because being 6' and a foetal position side sleeper I often find my knees get painful resting on the side bars of the bed because the mattress sinks slightly leaving the bars raised like a rim. The SIM takes up that space nicely, the 3.8 meant the frame padding was enough, the 7.5 means I'm slightly above it.
In reply to Post #15
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How do these things work then?
Well I never...
How do these things work then?
In reply to Post #16
Which 7.5 did you get ? I'd be interested in the dimensions and make please.
Which 7.5 did you get ? I'd be interested in the dimensions and make please.
In reply to Post #10
I also use the lumbar and fortis bag, the lumbar is a very comfy bed, i also had the trakker els before which could still sag and for me was no where as comfy as the lumbar bed.
I have needed to use a sim on other bedchairs i have had but haven't needed to use it on this one
I also use the lumbar and fortis bag, the lumbar is a very comfy bed, i also had the trakker els before which could still sag and for me was no where as comfy as the lumbar bed.
I have needed to use a sim on other bedchairs i have had but haven't needed to use it on this one
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I got a Outdoor Revolution Campstar 75, it measures 200 x 60 x 7.5. I wanted one that fitted nicely between the outer skirt but hummed & Ahhed about whether it needed to be slightly bigger to account for some stretch with the inevitable slight sag. I could really have gone for 63cm (there's a fair few in that width) and it would have been better but the difference is so little you'd not notice.
Another reason I like the Campstar is it has the same valve as the Helium 3.8, which is itself a plastic copy of a old reliable brass type. I read a lot of reviews on these new silicon flap type cyclone valves and some big names dont have great reviews. Guess I'll find out in time, the Mrs bought the Vango Shangri-la 15cm end of August for her on our fishing trip in Sept....and I'm making sure its tested...it is VERY comfortable. I would go so far as to say I'd consider one for longer trips if raised, its that good. I like my bed on the firmer side as I have a dodgy back, I added about 6 extra breaths when it was fully inflated thinking it won't be hard enough, about 10 mins later I had to let some air out...that'll teach me
I got a Outdoor Revolution Campstar 75, it measures 200 x 60 x 7.5. I wanted one that fitted nicely between the outer skirt but hummed & Ahhed about whether it needed to be slightly bigger to account for some stretch with the inevitable slight sag. I could really have gone for 63cm (there's a fair few in that width) and it would have been better but the difference is so little you'd not notice.
Another reason I like the Campstar is it has the same valve as the Helium 3.8, which is itself a plastic copy of a old reliable brass type. I read a lot of reviews on these new silicon flap type cyclone valves and some big names dont have great reviews. Guess I'll find out in time, the Mrs bought the Vango Shangri-la 15cm end of August for her on our fishing trip in Sept....and I'm making sure its tested...it is VERY comfortable. I would go so far as to say I'd consider one for longer trips if raised, its that good. I like my bed on the firmer side as I have a dodgy back, I added about 6 extra breaths when it was fully inflated thinking it won't be hard enough, about 10 mins later I had to let some air out...that'll teach me
In reply to Post #20
Cannot remember the model but jrc probably their top model looks good to me, 5 season sleep system about £300, seen plenty of good reviews as well.
Cannot remember the model but jrc probably their top model looks good to me, 5 season sleep system about £300, seen plenty of good reviews as well.
In reply to Post #20
Thanks for the info
Thanks for the info
Another 👍🏻 for the CH08. Took a little getting used to after my saggy RLX . First few nights it felt almost rigid(using a SIM as always) with ZERO give anywhere, but a few nights in I'm now finding myself having the best bankside sleep ever ( going back to late '80s). Solar got this spot on 